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Motorcycles

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Tck13, Mar 15, 2006.

  1. Kevin

    Kevin Senior member

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    I'm just learning to ride, and have been looking for a cheap 250 for a few weeks now.

    However I've got a lead on a 1981 Yamaha 650 Special II, 5,000 original miles for $1,250. My primary reservation is the size of the bike. That seems like way too much power for a beginner, but the bike was well cared for and hardly ridden, so I could probably recoup my losses if I get skittish about the engine size. Should I jump on the deal or wait until I find something more in my experience range?

    The MSF course is definitely on the agenda for this summer.
     
  2. Martinis at 8

    Martinis at 8 Senior member

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    I'm just learning to ride, and have been looking for a cheap 250 for a few weeks now.

    However I've got a lead on a 1981 Yamaha 650 Special II, 5,000 original miles for $1,250. My primary reservation is the size of the bike. That seems like way too much power for a beginner, but the bike was well cared for and hardly ridden, so I could probably recoup my losses if I get skittish about the engine size. Should I jump on the deal or wait until I find something more in my experience range?

    The MSF course is definitely on the agenda for this summer.


    Buy the bike. That's a good deal. Don't ride the bike until after you do the MSF course. The MSF course should teach you on a 250.

    M8
     
  3. j

    j Senior member Admin

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    I'm just learning to ride, and have been looking for a cheap 250 for a few weeks now.

    However I've got a lead on a 1981 Yamaha 650 Special II, 5,000 original miles for $1,250. My primary reservation is the size of the bike. That seems like way too much power for a beginner, but the bike was well cared for and hardly ridden, so I could probably recoup my losses if I get skittish about the engine size. Should I jump on the deal or wait until I find something more in my experience range?

    The MSF course is definitely on the agenda for this summer.

    I don't think that's too much power for a beginner - IMO, assuming you possess restraint and self-preservation instincts, it's a good size. My first bike was/is a 900cc with probably around the same amount of power as that bike (a lot more torque, though). Keep it in the lower RPM range and you will do fine.

    Definitely take the MSF course before you ride any bike. Once you get it, take it out to a parking lot and do all the MSF stuff again with your bike starting from walking the bike with the clutch, etc. Get really comfortable with it in a safe place before taking it on the roads.

    BTW, the MSF completion card gets you a discount at lots of moto gear shops. Be sure to ask. For example, the BMW shop nearby that carries all the best stuff gives 15% off helmets, gloves and boots. That can easily amount to a $200+ savings if you bought all their best gear.
     
  4. Kevin

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    This is excellent information to have. Thanks gents; I'll keep you posted on my progress.
     
  5. Martinis at 8

    Martinis at 8 Senior member

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    This is excellent information to have. Thanks gents; I'll keep you posted on my progress.

    Have fun. BTW most shops will know of local clubs where you may meet other riders. Typically they have weekend rides.

    M8
     
  6. Matt

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    This is excellent information to have. Thanks gents; I'll keep you posted on my progress.
    youll be addicted within weeks. have fun
     
  7. Tck13

    Tck13 Senior member

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    I'm just learning to ride, and have been looking for a cheap 250 for a few weeks now.

    However I've got a lead on a 1981 Yamaha 650 Special II, 5,000 original miles for $1,250. My primary reservation is the size of the bike. That seems like way too much power for a beginner, but the bike was well cared for and hardly ridden, so I could probably recoup my losses if I get skittish about the engine size. Should I jump on the deal or wait until I find something more in my experience range?

    The MSF course is definitely on the agenda for this summer.


    I agree with J. Don't buy a 250, buy something you really like (within reason) You will be bored with a 250 after 3 months of riding. There is a pretty quick learning curve in the beginning, especially if you ride a lot early on and 250 gets old quickly.
     
  8. Martinis at 8

    Martinis at 8 Senior member

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    Not to threadjack, but can we see some more pics like that Bonneville? [​IMG]
     
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    those retro triumph's are beautiful, i think a lot of them get shipped over to japan, they love that classic repro stuff. for a cruiser i reckon the triumph rocket III is the way forward, 2.3 litre engine on a production bike is crazy.
     
  11. j

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    This Triumph kicks ass...


    http://www.triumph.co.uk/uk/784.aspx

    Oh my god.

    [​IMG]

    Drool...

    Though actually that's still not as cool as the new Norton Commando. I like the 2-seat version they have coming soon.
     
  12. Martinis at 8

    Martinis at 8 Senior member

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    Norton? I thought they folded years ago. Their 650 used to be the rage. Did someone resurrect their logo? Nice looking bike.

    M8
     
  13. j

    j Senior member Admin

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    Norton? I thought they folded years ago. Their 650 used to be the rage. Did someone resurrect their logo? Nice looking bike.

    M8

    http://www.nortonmotorcycles.com

    [​IMG]

    http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/Articl...ID=2794&Page=1
     
  14. A Harris

    A Harris Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Nice!!! And Ohlins suspension too!
     
  15. Tck13

    Tck13 Senior member

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    Welp, I took the plunge last week and bought a bike.

    I got a Honda VTX 1300C (in black-the fastest color)

    I figured since I spend $300 to $400 per month in fuel, the savings would warrant a bike.

    Like an idiot, I could've gotten a less expensive bike and saved money every month but I got as much bike as I could afford. I should break even.

    [​IMG][/IMG]
     
  16. j

    j Senior member Admin

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    Welp, I took the plunge last week and bought a bike.

    I got a Honda VTX 1300C (in black-the fastest color)

    I figured since I spend $300 to $400 per month in fuel, the savings would warrant a bike.

    Like an idiot, I could've gotten a less expensive bike and saved money every month but I got as much bike as I could afford. I should break even.

    [​IMG][/IMG]

    Wow, nice. What's the gas mileage like on that hog?
     
  17. Tck13

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    Wow, nice. What's the gas mileage like on that hog?

    From what I understand I should get about 40 mpg in the city. The salesman (and a couple others) said I should get about 50 mpg on the highway. I filled up my tank yesterday (87 octane) for 10$!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! I love that.

    The only bad thing is that it only has a 4.8 gallon tank so if I ride a lot I need to fill up every couple of days.

    Fine with me!
     
  18. j

    j Senior member Admin

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    From what I understand I should get about 40 mpg in the city. The salesman (and a couple others) said I should get about 50 mpg on the highway. I filled up my tank yesterday (87 octane) for 10$!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! I love that.

    The only bad thing is that it only has a 4.8 gallon tank so if I ride a lot I need to fill up every couple of days.

    Fine with me!

    Very similar to mine. I have a small tank too, and I have let it run very nearly out a couple of times.

    I keep thinking I should get printed on the back of my jacket something like:

    50MPG
    HOV lanes
    What's your excuse?
     
  19. Tck13

    Tck13 Senior member

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    Very similar to mine. I have a small tank too, and I have let it run very nearly out a couple of times.

    I keep thinking I should get printed on the back of my jacket something like:

    50MPG
    HOV lanes
    What's your excuse?


    That would be awesome!!

    The first thing the salesman showed me on the bike when we bought it was the switch for the fuel. He told me that I need to be able to sit on the bike and find it w/o looking.

    Thank God!

    About an hour from home on one of my first longer rides, the bike started sputtering. The gas mileage was terrible (since the bike was new) and I was running out of fuel. I reached down and flipped the switch after I realized what was going on.

    Whew!
     
  20. j

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    That would be awesome!!

    The first thing the salesman showed me on the bike when we bought it was the switch for the fuel. He told me that I need to be able to sit on the bike and find it w/o looking.

    Thank God!

    About an hour from home on one of my first longer rides, the bike started sputtering. The gas mileage was terrible (since the bike was new) and I was running out of fuel. I reached down and flipped the switch after I realized what was going on.

    Whew!

    Yeah, my bike has two reserve tank switches. I leave one on reserve all the time so it takes longer to get to the reserve but once it does, I need to hurry to a gas station pronto. I found out the hard way how small one of those two reserve tanks actually is... luckily there was a gas station downhill from me. [​IMG]
     

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