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Motorcycles

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Tck13, Mar 15, 2006.

  1. Cool The Kid

    Cool The Kid Senior member

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    Its an old man's bike. The BMW R1200GS of Ducati

    It's stupid but image is very important to me WRT motorcycles. I would personally sacrifice some practicality/functionality for style.
     
  2. BostonHedonist

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    I agree, the MTS is not really a dual purpose bike. What it is is an awesome street bike that can hang with or outperform many sport bikes. Plus it has comfortable ergonomics that won't break your back and will let you travel many long miles in comfort. The BMW GS's are more true dual purpose bikes. What is a Mission R?



    IMO the MTS oozes style, but then I've been called an old man before. To me this is an old man's bike:

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    Slow, lumbersome, ugly, and mostly good for only going in a strait line.
     
  4. Cool The Kid

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    So is a Monster 1200, Street Triple, Ninja 1000 etc etc. To each their own I guess, but to me the MTS' styling cancels out all its positives, especially considering its engine is available in other more conventional bikes.
     
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    This is a Mission R - electric super bike

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  6. Rumpelstiltskin

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    Didn't one of those run the TT this year?
     
  7. brokencycle

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    For Mugen on the TT zero race (electric). Not quite as impressive since their only real competition in that space is Czys and Lightning.

    My hesitation is basically the lack of active suspension and other goodies that are on the HP4. I would love an electric, but at that price I expect it to have all the advanced crap that is on other bikes.
     
  10. Cool The Kid

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    No no no no no no electric
     
  11. epb

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    Yes yes yes. I can't wait for battery tech to make these practical as daily rides. For a city-dweller like me, I'd like to see more of them adopt what Zero does on one of their models, and make the battery removable. It would solve a couple of problems being able to take it into the condo to charge overnight, and reduce the chances of theft since that's the most expensive part.
     
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    I go back and forth...on one hand, electric is cool (efficient, cheap, low maintenance,etc), and electric motors have a crazy power band.
    It really would work well in the city, especially if I could carry the battery inside to charge. Not sure how long charge times are, but with enough range and a decent charge time (even if it was only a quick charge up to 80% in time for lunch or something), I could still make shorter trips like Chicago-to-Michigan.

    On the other hand...motorcycling isn't always about practicality. There is something about the gurgle of the exhuast, the feeling of having to use 3 separate appendages to cycle up through the gears, the smell of petrochemicals...

    I think I would miss the clutch and gearbox....would feel like riding an overgrown scooter. Sure, you could build a manual transmission and attach it to an electric motor, but that would a terrible idea (zero practical benefits, and a bunch more moving parts to fail).
     
  13. Rumpelstiltskin

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    They make sense for a city dweller as far as environmental concerns but not having the ablity to blip your throttle to let cars know you are there could be hazardous to a rider's health
     
  14. brokencycle

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    I think Harley's electric bike is going to simulate the noise. I don't know about others, but I doubt they will make these as quiet as say a Prius.
     
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    Just said fuck it and put down a deposit for an HP4 Competition.
     
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  16. Cool The Kid

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    Yea I def see the practical aspects of it, but if I wanted practical I wouldnt ride a motorcycle

    No gurgle, no gear shiftting... those are 2 of my favorite things about bikes, especially on the daily grind. No thx

    I think a hybrid bike would make a lot more sense. You engine brake a shit ton with a regular bike... might as well put that energy into a battery
     
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    I hate that this attitude is so prevalent. Motorcycles make sense in a lot of scenarios (electrics even more so), but the US market seeing riding as just a fun hobby is what keeps the market from expanding here. Then everyone grouses "why don't WE get that bike?" All the excitement over the "retro" SR400 (BikeExif has another cool custom of one up, btw) - they've been making that bike the entire time. Sometime in the 80s, we stopped seeing them as transportation and more as something to pose with.

    Speaking of bikes, the Sarah Jessica Parker ep of Comedians In Cars Getting Coffee as a great quote about them by Seinfeld. He says a guy who rode worked for his dad and showed up soaked after riding to work in the rain. Jerry, a teen at the time, asked "Don't you wish you had a car now?" The guy replied "Nope. I wish it wasn't raining." :)
     
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    Motorcycles are very practical. Rain isn't so bad. So you get a little wet? Unless you're going to the opera who cares? On more than one occasion I've shown up to court hearings pretty wet from a ride in. You know what everybody else thinks? "That's a bad motherfucker."

    I wouldn't go to a jury trial like that, obvs.
     
  19. BostonHedonist

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    I think electric bikes are a great idea and an inevitability. It just surprises the crap out of me that Harley Davidson is leading the charge. But their market is a large, rapidly-aging commodity.

    I like my bikes to make enough noise to be a presence among the text-and-drive lobotomy victims I share the road with. So the quietness is a concern to me. But instant torque is oh so alluring. And without internal combustion, maintenance would be drastically reduced.

    It's smart of Harley to be looking past the Baby boom. Kind of makes me interested in them for the first time ever.
     
  20. Cool The Kid

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    Fuck that. Im already risking my life riding the thing.
     

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