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Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Tck13, Mar 15, 2006.

  1. Cool The Kid

    Cool The Kid Distinguished Member

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    So in other words, they only stick like glue at the track....

    Track tires are unnecessary on the street. He could go one level down (i.e. BT-016, Diablo IIs etc.) or even two levels down (i.e. BT-020, Angel) and still have plenty of tire for the street, while also not having to replace them every 2,000 miles, get them up to temperature with a tire warmer or do a warm up lap just to ride anywhere. I think having a tire that suits the kind of riding you do is cooler than having "track take offs". My BT-023s are supposedly terrible tires, but they give good edge to edge grip in the twisties and never surprise me. I can push as soon as I leave my apt complex and know exactly what it's gonna do. That's the kind of tire you want on the street since you aren't gonna ever hit 100% or even 90% on the street anyway.
     


  2. rm20

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    hey all,

    sorry to repost a link to another thread, but seems like this one might be more recent / well maintained?

    http://www.styleforum.net/t/61010/motorcycle-jeans-project/45#post_6496020

    looking for a pair of great motorcycle jeans (abrasion resistant + fashionable off the bike), and was hoping people might have some recommendations!

    i've been doing a little research myself so will share results if anyone is interested.

    thanks!
     


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    Anyone interested in a 38R, Vanson Comet of 2pc Daines for sale
     


  4. Reynard369

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    Motorcycle experts of SF:

    I'm very new to motorcycles, currently in the market for my first bike. I'm probably going to end up going with a Honda CB, mid-to-late 70s, or something of a similar style. I'm not the most mechanically inclined person, so my plan is to get something in good shape rather than a 'project.' What things should be I be checking before I buy? Any specific/common issues I should be looking for? Appreciate the help, gents.
     


  5. Cool The Kid

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    I would stay away from old Hondas to start out on. They are overpriced and hard to get parts for. There aren't too many good beginner bikes with that vintage look... best one is probably the Suzuki TU250X...

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    ...which is as slow as dog shit, but not too bad to learn on I guess, and is dead reliable and easy to keep running. Once you feel confident and get tired of this thing (and you definitely will) then I would move to an old Honda.
     


  6. TRINI

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    I've got the Maple motorcycle jeans (1941 model) and they're good quality. My biggest complaint is that they're shrink to fit which makes sizing and shrinking a pain in the ass. They're also quite heavy so a bit uncomfortable in the summer.
     


  7. Rumpelstiltskin

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    No, you didn't read what I said. These are DOT tires and totally road legal and do not require tire warmers to get to optimal operating temperature. The point was to experiment with various tires with a minimum outlay of funds. I don't think I have ever paid more that $35 for a tire and trust me when I say these things are sticky. My 636 came with Battlax BT-015s and the only thing they are good for are long mileage. The difference between them and say Pirelli Diablo Super Corsas was night and day. Ditto with Michellins and a few other tires. Confidence inspiring, sticky lie you wouldn't believe...you could feel everything the bike was doing and they were totally predictable. Anyone who does some track days, lots of time in the canyons, twisties, backroads or the mountains will love them. You owe it to yourself to try them out. People who spend most their time on the interstate or commuting (or in Brooklyn) won't love them so much since they square off rather quickly due to the soft rubber composition. I don't know anything about having "cool" tires but finding out what works for you involves some trial & error. Why not limit the cost of said experimentation?
     
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  8. rm20

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    hey trini, thanks for the reply.

    yeah my buddy has the maple jeans too but said after he washed them they shrunk a LOT and now can't wear them (and is now out of pocket $300/$400). doesn't seem ideal!

    i'll keep my responses to that other motorcycle jeans thread, but i'm going to start looking into some fabrics to see if there might be a better solution for motorcycle jeans.

    if anyone has any experience with their favorite (or least favorite) jeans i'd love to know. realize this isn't a new topic so apologize if there are reposts but i'm really struggling to find a great pair of motorcycle jeans!
     


  9. TRINI

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    Mine didn't shrink that much to the point where they were unwearable but YMMV. I think there's another company called Lean Angle that's doing kevlar-reinforced denim as well but I'm not sure how good the design/washes are. One of the biggest appeals of the Maple was that they were raw.

    I was tempted at one point to investigate how difficult it'd be to transfer the lining and armour pockets of the Maples to my favourite jeans but then figured it wasn't worth the hassle. You might want to consider that option if your buddy's jeans are unwearable.

    Also - the Schoeller fabrics you've referenced above are more like nylon in feel/look/texture than denim. The pants you find made out of those materials will be more touring-style in nature than jeans. You might want to look into the BMW City pants which are a mix of cotton and cordura (i think) with armor in the knees and hips.
     
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    If you're new to bikes and not mechanically inclined, get something newer. Even a well-maintained old bike is going to have problems because it's old, parts are going to give out, old wires will fray. Track down a used CBR250R or Ninja, or if you want a standard and aren't power mad like most ill-advised newbies, a Suzuki TU250X, SymWolf Classic or Cleveland Misfit which have old-school style and power but are new.
     


  11. Rumpelstiltskin

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    Late 80s, early to mid 90s bikes like the Honda Hawk, Honda CB400, Suzuki SV500, Kawi ex500...
     
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  12. Cool The Kid

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    The Hawk is a sweet, sweet bike.
     


  13. Rumpelstiltskin

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    Have you ever ridden a super hawk? Not a beginner bike but it is another cult classic.

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    An older friend of mine had one and rode the piss out of it, small gas tank and all. track days, long trips, around town, backroads...everything. Ended up totalling it on the track (cracked engine case but insurance covered it because it was written up as a "rider education program") so he bought a cbr1000 (the heavy one from 2006). He still misses it all these years later.
     


  14. epb

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    Everyone that's had one seems to regret selling it, but I don't get how people do in the first place. I've added bikes, but nothing I've run across would replace it for me.. If the damned this could hold another gallon of gas, it'd be perfect. :)

    My dream Honda stable is my Hawk GT and a GB500TT:

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    ...maybe after the sport bike is gone...
     


  15. TRINI

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    Guys - I'm fuct (in a good way)

    I've decided that my bike is gonna be a more street tracker than cafe racer. My wrists can't take it.

    Doesn't significantly change the mods I had in mind but it does mean I need a new seat and bars. I'm thinking Biltwell trackers but I'm also tempted by their MX bars.
     


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