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Motorcycles

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Tck13, Mar 15, 2006.

  1. epb

    epb Senior member

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    Well, Ducati has let everyone ride the new Monster 1200S - thoughts and reactions?

    I've always admired the Monster and seriously considered getting one a year or two back, but the overall ergonomics never worked for me on the old ones and with size 15 feet it's looking like the new one is off the table as well.

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  2. Cool The Kid

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    Im not sold. Its a shame the Streetfighter had to die for this, IMO. And they STILL haven't figured out how to make footpeg mounts.
     
  3. Rumpelstiltskin

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    The 1098 Streetfighter had more balls and the signature clackety clack dry clutch but it also had 2 year/8k mile belt change and 15k valve check while the testastretta motor'd Monster has a wet clutch and an 18k mile valve check, longer than most Japanese bikes. More time to be spent riding or at Starbucks

    The littler tamer Streetfighter is still in the lineup for 2014 plus there are plenty of brand new 1098s left over. The Duc dealer in Manhattan has a lightly used (1k miles) 2011 Streetfighter S with Termis that looks hot.

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  4. epb

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    As much as I like the Monster (I've played with getting an early model for years), the SF848 is my favorite. It has a lot of what's appealing about my Honda Hawk GT (lightweight, narrow, V-twin, very similar ergonomics) with an exotic flair. I doubt it's as care-free, though. :) I like the yellow.

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  5. Cool The Kid

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    Hmmm. For all the SFS's fanfare I'm surprised there are brand new three year old leftovers. It may be one of those bikes that sounds like a good idea on paper, but is too much in the real world. If it were my money I'd go for the 848 too; 1098 does seem like a bit much for the street, especially w/upright bars
     
  6. epb

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    Exactly. The idea is it's a bike for riding in the commuting in the city, and you don't need 1100cc to do that. Heck, 850cc is overkill - bikes like the SV650, Hawk GT, and Street Triple have been praised as the best iterations of the concept and they've got by with less. I could see the SF848 working better for me in Chicago because commuting can often involve hopping on a crowded interstate for a few miles, but even then it would be weird. My Hawk is very narrow and something about it makes me nervous on the interstate - it feels like I'm on a unicycle. :)
     
  7. Cool The Kid

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    Highway bikes need more stability + substance. That, and on the highway a little more passing power and less strain on the engine is never a bad thing. So for a bike that will see a lot of highway time or pillion time, I think ~800-900ccs of torquiness is legit. But yea, my Ninja 650 was a hoot in NYC. It was a stoplight missile and maneuverable enough to lane split and all that. I can't see that being the case on a bike with 2x the displacement. Different strokes I guess.

    My dream logical bike is an SV1000N. Basically a Japanese SF848
     
  8. Rumpelstiltskin

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    HP
    132 hp @ 10,000 rpm vs 155 hp @ 9500 rpm

    Torque
    69 ft/lbs @ 9,500 rpm vs 85ft/lbs @ 9500 rpm

    1098 doesn't sound too much to me, it sounds just right!
     
  10. dohare

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    just sealed the deal and wired the money for my first bike. a Black Honda CB500F, 1k Miles, 2013, for $4,000. Only downside is it's in FL and I'm in NJ, so in total it'll cost me $4,300. But these bikes are $5,500 MSRP, so after fees roughly $5,700-$5,900. Really excited I found this bike. Can't wait to start riding.
     
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  11. MarioImpemba

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    Nice.

    Only $300 to ship? That's cheap as hell.
     
  12. Deuce

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    Looking for my first bike. Would prefer to only spend around $1,000. It will only really be used for around town and to and from work (about 5 miles). I am thinking about going with an old dual sport but am a little overwhelmed with all the options. Some of the models I have been looking at: DR350, DR650, TW200, XL350, XL600. Any help or suggestions would be super helpful.

    I would like to eventually get it to look something like this:

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    TW200 w/ Honda tank
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  13. Cool The Kid

    Cool The Kid Senior member

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    Old bikes rarely make good first bikes
     
  14. dohare

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    yeah man, Uship is awesome. Plus FL to northeast is a popular run for a lot of these freight truckers.
     
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    these are street legal?
     
  16. Deuce

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    Any suggestions? Do I need to prepare myself to spend more money?


    I believe so, they are both based off of dual sports.
     
  17. dohare

    dohare Senior member

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    some states require turn signals, some dont, you'll definitely need brake lights.
     
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    The original bikes may have been street legal, but those ones definitely are not.

    I don't think old bikes are terrible first bikes. They might require a bit of mechanical aptitude to maintain, but a lot of people don't even keep their first bike for very long. If you buy it and it works for a year with nothing more than oil changes and you can sell it off to someone else...you've done well.
     
  19. Deuce

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    Sorry if this is a dumb question, but why aren't they street legal? It looks like they both have plates, brake light, head light, mirror... I don't think Colorado requires turn signals.
     
  20. dohare

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    i don't see brake lights, am i blind? and some states are also very strict about license plate positioning, I'm almost positive if i were to ride around NJ with one of these a cop would pull me over for not being able to read the tags.
     

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