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Most overrated movie/actor.

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by benecios, Oct 4, 2006.

  1. Quirk

    Quirk Senior member

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    Quirk, what did you hate about Punch Drunk Love? I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would. Sideways I found decent, but overhyped.
    Well, I hate self-conscious quirkiness. The harmonium? Gimme a frickin' break. Also, I didn't buy the way his family and the Emily Watson character related to this socially and emotionally dysfunctional guy. I'll forgive a lot of faults in a film, but if the relationships ring false, it's dead to me. I had a similar issue with Sideways: I just didn't buy these two guys with absolutely nothing in common -- on any level -- being best buds in their 40s just because they happened to have been randomly thrown together as roommates in college. I liked the Giamatti-Madsen relationship, though. And I kept trying to figure out why Sandra Oh looked 10 times hotter than she does on that ridiculous Grey's Anatomy.
     
  2. Saucemaster

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    Well, I hate self-conscious quirkiness. The harmonium? Gimme a frickin' break. Also, I didn't buy the way his family and the Emily Watson character related to this socially and emotionally dysfunctional guy. I'll forgive a lot of faults in a film, but if the relationships ring false, it's dead to me.

    I had a similar issue with Sideways: I just didn't buy these two guys with absolutely nothing in common -- on any level -- being best buds in their 40s just because they happened to have been randomly thrown together as roommates in college. I liked the Giamatti-Madsen relationship, though. And I kept trying to figure out why Sandra Oh looked 10 times hotter than she does on that ridiculous Grey's Anatomy.


    Ah, see, it seems like you were looking (in some sense) for verisimilitude, whereas with PDL, at least, I thought the whole point was not so much to depict a realistic relationship between AS and his family as to depict almost a parody of it. I grew up with two sisters, and while I love them both, I can imagine how growing up with, what, four or five sisters (especially if many of them were older than you) would *feel* very much like what was depicted in the movie, even if it wouldn't *be* quite like that. I thought of the movie as basically projecting the AS character's own experience on the world at large, so I sort of took most of the quirkiness and the moments where relationships seemed strange or left me incredulous as having more to do with the AS character and his dysfunctional relationship to the world than anything else. Plus, in the end, I just plain thought it was funny.

    We agree on Gray's Anatomy for SURE though. That show needs to die a horrible death.
     
  3. Thracozaag

    Thracozaag Senior member

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    Finally saw Kill Bill volumes 1 and 2, don't see the big deal.

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  4. Bandwagonesque

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    Brokeback Mountain was incredibly underwhelming. I really wanted to like this movie - it was one of those movies when I was hoping for the ending as soon as possible. Nice scenery though. Then I watched Infernal Affairs, which kicked total ass. I haven't seen The Departed yet, so none of the plot was spoiled, even though the plot of The Departed is now spoiled for me [​IMG]
     
  5. j

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    Did I say Star Wars in this thread yet? Star Wars. All of them. (Well, I think I've seen 5 of them, but I can't remember.) Also, I've never been able to get into Alien(s) or The Fifth Element despite repeated viewings. There are a bunch of movies that lots of people think are really awesome that I feel like I'm watching paint dry.
     
  6. acidboy

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    The Blairwitch Project
     
  7. UMass

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    I think Brad Pitt argees. [​IMG]


    Nic Cage, he is the same in all his movies or maybe he just plays the same role in all his movies. [​IMG]
     
  8. Violinist

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    Did I say Star Wars in this thread yet? Star Wars. All of them. (Well, I think I've seen 5 of them, but I can't remember.) Also, I've never been able to get into Alien(s) or The Fifth Element despite repeated viewings. There are a bunch of movies that lots of people think are really awesome that I feel like I'm watching paint dry.

    I though 5th Element was supposed to be a kind of kitchy joke? People actually liked it???
     
  9. Dormouse

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    Ah, no love for science fiction?

    I liked it. It's campiness was part of the allure.
     
  10. Violinist

    Violinist Senior member

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    I enjoy yogurt on bright sunday afternoons..however I make sure to stay away from the lawn on early mornings due to the wet grass
     
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    Ah, no love for science fiction?

    I don't see why Star Wars is science fiction. There's no science, just space ships. Alien(s) are thrillers/horrors set in space. The Fifth Element is the closest to sci-fi, but it's more of a comedy/chase movie.

    Anyway, I do like some of what's called sci-fi. Blade Runner, for example, is one of my favorite movies. At least that has some technical stuff involved in the plot.
     
  12. Tokyo Slim

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    I don't see why Star Wars is science fiction. There's no science, just space ships. Alien(s) are thrillers/horrors set in space. The Fifth Element is the closest to sci-fi, but it's more of a comedy/chase movie.

    Anyway, I do like some of what's called sci-fi. Blade Runner, for example, is one of my favorite movies. At least that has some technical stuff involved in the plot.



    You just like Bladerunner for Sean Young, that crazy, crazy bitch.

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  13. Dormouse

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    I don't see why Star Wars is science fiction. There's no science, just space ships. Alien(s) are thrillers/horrors set in space. The Fifth Element is the closest to sci-fi, but it's more of a comedy/chase movie.


    What? You don't believe in the Force?
     
  14. mayonaise

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    In the last couple of months I have to say Marie Antoinette with Kristen Dunst was a big disappointment and a total waste of time. Really misguiding campaigne in advance... I expected a great costume movie and I even went to watch it thinking it would probably not be very historically.

    What it turned out to be, upset me for falling for it in the first place.
     
  15. trajan

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    The question of "who's overrated" is not well-defined, and it is an unfair question. If you take a look at the movies that make money, acting well is not necessary, and in fact it might be detremental. Today, only playing a few stereotypes pays off, maybe because people project themselves into that role and really not following the movie itself. Thus, a successful movie would not be realist movie, and the performances will not be realist as well. But what pays off? Having a pretty face does, like Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, Scarlett Johanson or whom ever people consider beautiful; smiling and flirting all the time, like Cameron Diaz, etc; having a nice body -- Arnold is a bit over the top, but people used to go just to watch him (can you believe he's made a few movies where he only says a couple of words???), etc.

    If you want good acting, watch old movies (they may be a bit boring). A few days ago I watched Blue Velvet a movie with Marlene Dietriech, and she's a lot more than a pretty face. Unfortunately, the movie is boring compared to today's movies, due to the lack of jokes and flirts. Marlene Dietriech is just one of many actors that actually acted well. My favorite actors are Kathrene Hepburn and Cary Grant. From today's actors, Johnny Depp is the best. He played many types of roles well, very well. But most people don't care that he's versatile, but rather that he looks good -- and he's handsome indeed.

    Better yet, if you want acting go to the theater!

    btw, the rank #1 movie at the top box office is Stomp the Yard with 25.9 millions in one week-end, and even IMDB is giving it a 2.1 score. I haven't seen it, and I can't help but wonder -- how can a 2.1/10 movie make 25.9 in the opening week-end, and the really good movies (many times independent) are not on the radar screen?

    --trajan
     
  16. trajan

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    Most despised actor: Mel Gibson. I can't abide that bombastic old ham, and I felt that way long before his anti-semitic outburst a few months ago. Worst movies I thought I might like: 1. Gods and Generals 2. Braveheart 3. The Thin Red Line (I had forgotten about that turkey until someone mentioned it.) Worst Movies I had no expectations of: Black Moon Death in Venice
    People's beliefs are not in question, but their skills. You can't say he's acting sucks because he's an antisemite, or a homophobe, or whatever. It just shouldn't matter. Mel Gibson plays the same role every time, it's the tough guy who doesn't want to lose. See Braveheart, Payback, The Patriot. Even when he's playing comedy, he's still playing the role of a tough guy, and he's very good at playing tough. He's linear, and he doesn't try to be something else. Thus, he shouldn't even be considered for the most overrated. Braveheart is a very good movie. How can you possibly think it's the second worst movie ever? --trajan
     
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    Master and Commander undderrated? Give us a break.

    In a ROTC leadership class the instructor made us watch and study Master and Commander. I then developed a good appreciation for the movie.

    --trajan
     
  18. wojt

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    Vertigo
    V for Vendetta
    Dark Knight Rises

    All average movies, why they are considered masterpieces is beyond me.

    OFC because no advanced science is involved in concept of a spaceship, they are just space ships.
     
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  19. Dr Huh?

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    I won't be getting any thumbs up for this, but Raging Bull. It's Robert De Niro acting like an asshole in black and white for two hours, with a few fight scenes thrown in, and some slow motion and opera music. I just don't get this movie at all. Goodfellas and Taxi Driver are superior movies.
     
  20. gort

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    Pulp Fiction is overrated. Not a single character worth caring about. You need to be rooting for SOMEBODY.
     
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