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More Carmina Shoes

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by teddieriley, Sep 18, 2011.

  1. Owen Meany

    Owen Meany Senior member

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    I'm in Los Angeles patiently awaiting a delivery from Barcelona of the shell monks on the rain last ....and once the fit is confirmed, I suspect there will be an immediate follow up order.....

    So looking forward to getting these shoes and when I do, I will post photos and comments....jtb
     
  2. worldrunner

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    Does Carmina ship polish with all shoes?
     
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  3. Liquidus

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    On a similar note, does Carmina sell shoe trees, especially lasted ones?
     
  4. Cuttingboard

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    Anyone know how the Queen last compares to the Inca last? I bought a pair of the Epaulet double monks in the 8.5UK Inca last and that are a tad large, heel slips a little and I curious whether I need to order the same size (8.5) or size up to a 9 in the Queen last?
     
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  5. Kemper

    Kemper Well-Known Member

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    Yes, Carmina sells shoe trees (60 euros in Paris). Not sure they are lasted.
     
  6. NORE

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    :teach:
     
  7. SpooPoker

    SpooPoker Internet Bigtimer and Most Popular Man on Campus Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    You're nuts. I like these better than EGs.

    YEAH I SAID IT WHAT
     
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  8. Xiaogou

    Xiaogou Senior member

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    Who are you? What have you become? I feel like I don't know you anymore!

    Take a trip to Lobb tomorrow! Snap out of it.
     
  9. Mr. Moo

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    Carmina better be really REALLY good to be better than EG.
     
  10. meister

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    intersting how poor the resale is including no buyers....lack of familiarity I suspect.
     
  11. quar

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    Just because The Armoury sell them.

    Carmina are not in the same league in terms of finish or materials compared to EG. Having said that, they are much cheaper. I own a pair of Carmina, and would buy more in the future. But my John Lobb and Vass shoes make the Carmina pair I have feel subpar.
     
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    SpooPoker Internet Bigtimer and Most Popular Man on Campus Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    Im not speaking from a construction standpoint, or a "quality" standpoint. For me personally, I prefer the lasts and looks of all my Carmina shoes over every one of the EG shoes I have owned. Granted I have only had a few EGs myself, they are not my #1 pick for shoes.
     
  13. quar

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    Fair enough.

    I just feel Carmina are the flavour of the month here, and over-rated. They are good shoes. But they are not super high-quality compared to the likes of Vass, EG, St. Crispin's, JL Prestige, etc.
     
  14. SpooPoker

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    Sure, that I know. But (to me)I prefer the way they look compared to a lot of those, and actually are more comfortable for me, thats all.
     
  15. DerekS

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    on looks alone, i agree with you. with the exception of the 888 last. thats just dead secksay.
     
  16. Kemper

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    To me, Carmina is not a flavour, but a reality that I can compare to the two pairs of EG, 1 pair of Lobb MTO, 2 of Crockett & Jones mainline, 1 of Vass (having sold another one) etc that I own.
    Construction and skins are very good on the Carminas, and have nothing to fear in comparison with EG for instance. And in Paris, a pair of EG cost 800 euros, vs 370 euros for Carmina.
    More, on the Carmina's Simpson last, the form is quite close to those that can be observed on bespoke shoes.

    Of course, personnal tastes are another thing.

    And regarding Vass and the quality, permit me to show you my last pair of Vass in the state I received them :

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  17. Liquidus

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    I just got a quote from Betty on two pairs of MTO shoes:

    Model 80201 (Rain punchcap)
    Brown calf/leather sole/size 6
    423 Euros

    Model 80216 (Rain chelsea)
    Brown calf/leather sole/size 6
    520 Euros.

    50 Euros shipping to US

    She said that these were prices excluding VAT, but that would mean that MTO is more than 30% extra. When I check the online shop, I see:

    A pair of Rain oxfords for 325 Euros tax included : 325*1.3=422.5

    A pair of Simpson chelseas for 400 Euros tax included
    : 400*1.3=520

    Did she make a mistake and quote me prices including VAT?
     
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  18. NORE

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    They are good, but not EG good.


    Some like Lobb, others like EG. You know where I stand.

    With 2 pairs of Carminas making up my limited stable they are solid shoes for the price, but no where near EG on any front. Also, I hate that they really don't have names for their shoe models but just last names.
     
  19. bullswin

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    Yeah, my guess is you're right. The price for the first pair should be roughly 350 euro. (btw, I'm also currently in the process of placing an mto order.)
     
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  20. tim_horton

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    I understand where the feeling that Carmina is a passing fad comes from - it seems like their profile in the US (or at least SF) has increased dramatically in a relatively short period of time. However, I think this has more to do with good quality at a very competitive price, ease of access (through Armoury and now the online store), and that they are just nice-looking shoes. I don't know how to judge "quality" objectively - I'm not going to rip apart any of my Carminas to compare them to EG or JL. I think for most people - not all but most - once you get above a certain level of construction quality it becomes academic. I've seen a number of EG shoes in person (at Leffot FWIW) and I prefer the look of Carmina's lasts from what I've seen. And I've never been tempted to try on any EG because of the great fit I get from Carmina. And that is aside from the difference in price. I have no problem with someone saying EG or JL are "better" in any sense of the word, they probably are, I'm just going by what I like.

    If my shoes fall apart in a year or so I may change my tune...:embar:
     

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