globetrotter
Stylish Dinosaur
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sorry, but it's like saying to somebody who is a drug adict, "hey, just have a little puff, I'm sure it will be ok"
I am not going to say "hey, it's not our fault we're fat, its our fate blah blah blah," but people get to be obese because they get addicted to food. the body and the mind work together to make it very hard to lose weight, and very hard to not eat.
the way to beat it isn't by cutting down on bread and dessert, you don't lose 100 pounds by only having half your dinner roll. sorry.
look, one of the guys I work with now is obese, and he eats an insane amount of food. looking from the side, I can't believe that I used to eat like that, but I understand his position. and cutting that consumption down isn't that easy, he can do it, but it is a major life change.
I'll give you and example - I eat in some of the best resteraunts in Asia and south america on a regular basis, and some pretty good resteraunts in Europe too. in at least half the cases, some body else orders the food, and they are trying to honor me and show off to me. I am simply not in a position to say "sorry, less bread and fat, more whole grains please" in each of these cases, I need to be on the top of my game, as millions of dollars in business are being discussed. and, frankly, I am very atracted to food. so, saying "eat less bread, more whole grains, you should be ok" is an idiot answer. its like saying to somebody who says to you "I'm an adict who has been sober for 6 years" "hey, just have a couple of drinks, I'm sure it will be fine"
umm...ok. i don't consider it an idiot answer and i don't understand why you would. i do not work in a zero stress retail job. i've never been obese, but various times i have been significantly heavier than i would like to be and have done research to figure out how to counteract that. after reading such research, the above is a condensed version of what i've learned (and is not obvious, if that's the reason why you think it's an "idiot answer"...many supposedly reputable sources of information on nutrition will tell you not to eat meat and to eat a lot of whole grains).
Also, you can't really call something an "idiot answer" and then claim later that it's not an insult.
sorry, but it's like saying to somebody who is a drug adict, "hey, just have a little puff, I'm sure it will be ok"
I am not going to say "hey, it's not our fault we're fat, its our fate blah blah blah," but people get to be obese because they get addicted to food. the body and the mind work together to make it very hard to lose weight, and very hard to not eat.
the way to beat it isn't by cutting down on bread and dessert, you don't lose 100 pounds by only having half your dinner roll. sorry.
look, one of the guys I work with now is obese, and he eats an insane amount of food. looking from the side, I can't believe that I used to eat like that, but I understand his position. and cutting that consumption down isn't that easy, he can do it, but it is a major life change.
I'll give you and example - I eat in some of the best resteraunts in Asia and south america on a regular basis, and some pretty good resteraunts in Europe too. in at least half the cases, some body else orders the food, and they are trying to honor me and show off to me. I am simply not in a position to say "sorry, less bread and fat, more whole grains please" in each of these cases, I need to be on the top of my game, as millions of dollars in business are being discussed. and, frankly, I am very atracted to food. so, saying "eat less bread, more whole grains, you should be ok" is an idiot answer. its like saying to somebody who says to you "I'm an adict who has been sober for 6 years" "hey, just have a couple of drinks, I'm sure it will be fine"