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Morbidly Obese in the Public Eye, Is It Possible to Look Professional?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by MrDaniels, Sep 30, 2011.

  1. MrDaniels

    MrDaniels Senior member

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    Obama's smoking was probably equivalent to Clinton's Fast Food problem. To be equivalent to Christie's morbid obesity, Obama would have had to have been a manic chain smoker who would panic going more than 30 minutes without a fix. Do you know how much food one has to eat to maintain a 400 pound weight?
     
  2. Hayward

    Hayward Senior member

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    I dunno. You have to do more than change your diet to lose weight. At my last job I did nothing but sit at a desk and process stress over the phone, occasionally take clients to lunch and ate breakfast at Carls Jr. almost every day, for over a decade. Gained 50 pounds in that time. I didn't start losing it until it started to exacerbate my back issues and started changing my diet AND to exercise.

    Is he really 400 pounds? Is he over 6 feet tall?
     
  3. DrHouse

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    Churchill had sort of a chubby face as he got older but remember that he was 70 in 1944 and this is the image most people had of him.Churchill was about 5'7" but I doubt that he ever weighed over 200lbs, probably about 180lb.
     
  4. Sonny58

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    I'm sorry but I respectully disagree. Christie has proven himself to be effective in tackling difficult problems. It isn't ideal that he weighs what he does but it certainly shouldn't be a deal breaker. I have no doubt that many politicians indulge in vices more egregious than overeating.
     
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    You seem to imply that he's eating constantly. Is this a guess or have you read this? Maintaining weight doesn't necessarily require a lot of food. In fact, depending on a variety of factors (metabolism being the biggest one), one can consume less that 2,000 calories/day and gain weight. It's the losing of weight that's a lot of effort. FWIW, there was an interesting NYT article called "Fat Factors" that went into some of these issues.
     
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    No. At 5'11", I bet he's sitting around 300. Take it from someone who knows. If he were 400, he'd be unelectable.

    EDIT: After further reflection, I'm upping my estimate to 315ish. But that's still quite a ways from 400.
     
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  7. Uncle Ernie

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    You never know... A former mayor of my city lost some popularity after loosing some weight, and he promptly gained it back. Completely irrational I know, but.
     
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    William Conrad as 'Frank Cannon'.
     
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    Really depends on how much muscle mass he's carrying. My dad topped 270 at one point and he wasn't half Christie's size visually. I've been as big as 245 at 6' (granted I lifted a lot before I added fat on top of it) and didn't have any rolls or anything, didn't even have a gut you could see through a shirt.
     
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    So taking a smoke break every hour doesn't bother you? Obama was up to 1-2 packs a day which takes up a significant amount of time.
     
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    Does it matter? At 5'11 morbidly obese starts at 245 if my calculator is right.

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    There are studies linking obesity to lower wages etc. The guy in the OP's pic starts out looking angry it just snowballs for guys like him.
     
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    Do we want a president larded with so much fupa that he'd get winded climbing the steps to Air Force One? If elected president, Christie would be taking catnaps after each greasy, fried, carb-overloaded meal. He'd be our first "sleep apnea" commander in chief.

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  15. Rambo

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    Let me help you guys out here: As a formerly fat motherfucker I have first hand knowledge of this shit. Its physically impossible for a fat piece of shit to look stylish in clothes. PERIOD. Ain't happenin'. You're fat, and you know it. No amount of tailoring can hide the 20 piece bucket of wings you gobbled down on your way home from the office.
     
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  16. JubeiSpiegel

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    I love the "slippery slope" argument used in this thread, classic logical fallacy. Back to the focus at hand, it takes more work to look good when you are over weight. I'm doing my efforts to lose weight myself, no point in buying nice things just to look passable.

    A morsel to add to the conversation, an overweight person can lose up to 15% of their mental capacity in a life time due to the extra mass. Best motivation I've ever heard to lose some weight...
     
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    An imposing, lumpen bulk does not accentuate the best features of a well tailored suit. Perhaps his wardrobe costs need not be astronomically high since a cheap suit or expensive suit would be as an equal eyesore.

    But bless this poor man, he probably only eats salads and his weight problem is due to an overactive thyroid, slow metabolism or some other gland issues :devil:.

    :teach: Perhaps more realistically his wise and elevating maxims stem from a basic concept that "good greasy and tasty food need not hurt anyone".

    Hailing from NJ, maybe he visits Cake Boss guy too often, who bakes him a double breasted cake with floating canvas made from vanilla fondant.

    I always look at oversized folks and rather than feel pity, I imagine and wonder what level of choppiness would exist in standard pool of water when they do a bomb dive into it. The pool doth runneth over.

    For my 1000'th post, this zany advice was partially rendered under the influence of a brown / golden fluid that warms the chest and numbs the senses. Blessed ye be merry gentlemen.

    Peace and love to all, fatties, thinnies, and imaginery friends that you see but nobody else can.
     
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  18. mack11211

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    A few points.

    Hating fat people is a prejudice of our age. Of course, there are more of them than ever. Need we hate them? No! And, absent immediate health issues, his weight has no bearing on his fitness to hold office. Which voters may dislike it is something his team has dissected, I'm sure. NJ voters liked him enough (or disliked Corzine enough) to vote him in.

    Christie, AFAIK, does not come from money and has no taste for expensive clothes. Stuff looks tailored to him approximately. But more money could result in more attention to fit.

    Two contemporary trends work to his disadvantage. One is the trend toward casualization. Do you have any pictures of Taft giving a speech in shirtsleeves, and vestless? I think not. Two is the trend toward lighter-weight suiting cloths. These show every pull and wrinkle and are something Sydney Greenstreet's tailor never had to deal with.
     
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  19. JayJay

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    I agree with this. As mentioned several times in this thread, in a suit his weight isn't as prominent compared to him sans jacket. He looks less presidential-like without the jacket.
     
  20. in stitches

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    consider the physical state of presidents and other officials before television and after. looks are clearly a huge factor. you dont have to like it or think its fair, but its a fact. when people are deciding who they want as a leader, even if one is intelligent, well spoken and capable, their looks often become a larger factor in the eyes of the public. often times people dont even realize they are making that judgement.

    look at palin, and im not saying im for or against her, but you tell me her looks arent a huge leg up for her and you should have your head checked. kudos to the guy for making it as far as he has, but i would bet large a sum of money a person with that look will never be elected president in our day and age. id even be surprised if they were chosen as a running mate. again im not making a political point here, just an obsevation on how public figures are usually perceived.
     

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