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Monogramming shirts

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Kent Wang, Jun 17, 2005.

  1. Kent Wang

    Kent Wang Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    I just placed my first Jantzen order last night and saw that they had the option of monogramming your custom shirt. Being of Chinese birth, I took advantage of getting my name monogrammed in Chinese characters. Another advantage of ordering from a Hong Kong business.

    What do you think about monograms? Self-indulgent or a nice touch when custom-ordering a shirt? What if it is not visible when worn?

    I know many people would chose to place the monogram on the pocket, but I went with a no-pocket design and chose to place the monogram "On Left Arm". I hope that is not too conspicuous. If it is, I might revise my order to have it placed inside the yoke.
     
  2. globetrotter

    globetrotter Senior member

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    I do mine just above the left elbow. almost nobody ever sees it but me.
     
  3. Count Basie

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    Janzten monograms chinese characters? Hmm..theres another incentive for me to place an order (I'm in the market for some bespoke shirts as of late). I'm Korean, but like the majority of Koreans my Korean name is derived from Chinese.
     
  4. FFW

    FFW Active Member

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    if you are a criminal a monogram can be usefull to identify your body.
     
  5. otis

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    The traditional place to put a monogram (according to Flusser, Martin Greenfield and others), which is rarely seen these days, is about 4 inches above the waistline of your pants on left side (for a shirt w/ no pocket).

    I've only had a couple of shirts done, the first time I asked someone to put it in that spot on a shirt I already owned they put it too low. The next one I had done on a Brooks MTM I was getting at the same time I got my Greenfield MTM suit, and they did it perfectly (pink shirt w/ white monogram on Martin's recommendation, "don't show it off" he said).

    In general though, I tend to agree that monograms should be subtle and understated. I read one recommendation to put on the shirt tail where no one would see it - but I don't go that far.
     
  6. BjornH

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    I put mine (in the latin alphabet.) on the inside of the yoke. Came out very well. If you do that they leave out the Jantzen tailor label so the only writing on your shirt is your initials and the 'J' on the gusset, if selected.

    I don't know about the practical value of this, but it is easy on my eyes when I reach for it.

    B
     
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    I don't wear monograms for the same reason my name isn't written in my underpants. What's the point?
     
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    rlevine Well-Known Member

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    Yes, inside yoke is probably the most discreet place.
     
  10. gardel

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    I don't see the point of monogramming a shirt except to help in identifying it at the laundry. In that case, on the yoke or some other hidden place makes sense. If a monogram is visible but discrete it doesn't bother me on someone else but I wouldn't wear one like that myself.
     
  11. mack11211

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    Carson Kressley [sp] of Queer Eye has his entire first name monogrammed on his shirt cuff, in cursive script.

    This is on the back cover of his own how-to-dress book.

    Do as I say, not as I do, he says.  Still, such a man is hard to trust.
     
  12. Horace

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    Otis: 2 questions for you: 1) did you ever have Brooks do monograming for you on RTW shirts? They seem to be unable (or unwilling?) to do monogram anywhere except usual places. 2) where did you read the excerpt about putting monogram on front shirt tail? That's where I put my monogram (on those occasions where I have them done).
     
  13. Alexander Kabbaz

    Alexander Kabbaz Senior member

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    Monogram placement differs from one side of the 'Pond' to the other. The position you describe is the traditional European one. In the United States, the most traditional placement is on the chest where the pocket shouldn't be. Second most popular here is on the left cuff. Third most popular is a tie between the left sleeve (forearm) and on the lower left tail about 2"-3" above the hem.
    Any proper hand-monogramming artist can embroider virtually anything you (or they) can draw. I have done Chinese, Japanese, Greek and Russian letterforms/picture characters and, as well, many different symbols. (Sorry, Alias ... :-( never done a Korean one.) Even logos can be copied: [​IMG] If I can get permission from a client, I shall post a photo of a symbol as an example.
     
  14. Matt

    Matt Senior member

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    i think they do that in vietnam....almost everywhere. i might get my next shirt embroidered with "Kabbaz-Kelly & Sons Fine Custom Clothiers" in tribute to your 1000th posts here and at AAAC [​IMG]
     
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    I use the left tail just off the yoke. I actually have monogrammed boxers on the left leg as well. No one sees them until its too late (except when I go out with the jeans untucked shirt look working.)
     
  16. otis

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    Harris - I have never asked about Brooks monogramming for RTW shirts; but I have noticed their options are limited in the catalog.

    The article on shirt tail monograms - I can't remember for sure, I think it may have been in Esquire a couple of years ago.
     
  17. ernest

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    TACKY unless you have an alzheimer...
     
  18. Kent Wang

    Kent Wang Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    Translation: Monogram is for alzheimer.

    Ernest cannot be matched in concision.
     
  19. Will

    Will Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I have it placed inside the yoke. It saves the shirt from laundry marks and keeps the maker's label off the shirt.
     
  20. Vintage Gent

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    Like so... http://img195.echo.cx/my.php?image=chan2shirt13zb.jpg
     

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