MoneyWellSpent's Southern Trad Thread

[Caustic Man]

FYI, Crittenden Clothes in Midway and Lexington Kentucky is having a 50% off sale. If you are in the Bluegrass and looking for some Summer gear then this would be the time!

 

[Artigas]

How are all the lonely preppies here on SF? The Italians might lose their minds over the stuff posted in here.

You don't have to be lonely--at PreppiesOnly.com

Bring a Vassar or Bryn Mawr alum home to meet mother, today!

 

[Caustic Man]

Hah, excellent!

 

[Caustic Man]

Here is another "informative" video telling you everything you need to know about the Ivy Style. Try not to laugh too hard.

 

[Artigas]

Here is another "informative" video telling you everything you need to know about the Ivy Style. Try not to laugh too hard.

I have mixed feelings about this channel. He does showcase some interesting pieces. On the other hand, his overall presentation smacks of playing dress-up, and his expressions engender distrust. And of course, his understanding of the subject matter leaves much to be desired. It makes me think of how early Japanese Ivy enthusiasts weren't fully able to grasp the style:

Today, little about the clothing in the photo would be identified as Ivy League style—certainly not Kurosu’s porkpie hat, cufflinks, silver-colored formal necktie, and pearl tiepin. Despite Men’s Club’s position at the forefront of Ivy League fashion in Japan, nobody involved in the operation could accurately replicate the American collegiate look. Lacking firsthand experience with Ivy League students, the style in Japan was built on tiny scraps of information and Men’s Club editors’ educated guesses.

In our information age, getting the right answers should have been much more straightforward, especially for one willing to go to the trouble to produce and edit a video on the subject.

 

[starro]

Not to mention a jerk in person.

 

[Blake Stitched Blues]

I always think of the unfortunate fedoracore gentleman pictured below whenever I see any of GG's videos.

 

[Caustic Man]

I have mixed feelings about this channel. He does showcase some interesting pieces. On the other hand, his overall presentation smacks of playing dress-up, and his expressions engender distrust. And of course, his understanding of the subject matter leaves much to be desired. It makes me think of how early Japanese Ivy enthusiasts weren't fully able to grasp the style:



In our information age, getting the right answers should have been much more straightforward, especially for one willing to go to the trouble to produce and edit a video on the subject.

I agree, although I can’t comment on his trustworthiness I will say that I actually enjoy his channel for a specific reason. He isn’t obsessed with treading the same old menswear ground (you know, like explaining the meaning of the word Seersucker or the difference between full and half canvas). True, he does explain things like this but he also talks about things that are more esoteric and not necessarily geared toward the uninitiated. However, he does often come across as having a very superficial understanding of some things and sometimes he’s just plain wrong.

Not to mention a jerk in person.

You have met him?

I always think of the unfortunate fedoracore gentleman pictured below whenever I see any of GG's videos.

That’s @Orgetorix and it’s too bad that he was chosen to represent fedoracore (whatever that is). He’s actually a very good dresser and isn’t obsessed with old timey hats at all. In fact, he has posted some great things in this thread in the past.

But yeah, Sven’s look on Gentleman’s Gazette leans too much toward try-hard dandy for me. And I wear madras...

 

[starro]

You have met him?

Yes, third-party witness is an apt description. Suffice it to say I got enough first-hand understanding of his business practices that I'd recommend against being a customer, client, or counterparty of his.

 

[Caustic Man]

Hm, interesting. I’ll let that comment speak for itself since I can’t add anything of relevance.

On another note, I consider this outfit to be trad. The jacket is dartless, 3r2, natural shoulders with swelled edges. Shirt is a university stripe OCBD. Trousers are Brooks Brothers. Unseen are a pair of penny loafers, pennies included. Stetson hat. Ray Bans. But anyway, just goes to show that trad can look contemporary.

 

[Roycru]

As @Caustic Man said, "And I wear Madras...."

.....and unlike Sven, neither of us sell $40.00 artificial buttonhole flowers.

The only acceptable artificial buttonhole flowers are the ones sold by various veteran's organizations to benefit veterans.

 

[Caustic Man]

I wore an artificial lapel flower once. I didn't much care for it. It just didn't look right to me. Truth be told I don't put much in my lapel button holes at all.

 

[Thin White Duke]

I wore an artificial lapel flower once. I didn't much care for it. It just didn't look right to me. Truth be told I don't put much in my lapel button holes at all.

Got to be better than those silk knot cuff links in lapel button holes. Dunno where, why or how that trend started but I look forward to the day it will stop.

As for GG - all I will say is that he seems to get the wrong end of the stick with alarming frequency, and I don’t know whether it’s his choice of clothes or the way they fit him but I struggle to recall a single photo of him which made me think ‘great look’ or ‘fantastic piece’ or ‘perfect fit’ etc. All too often he really does look like he’s raided his dad’s (grandad’s?) wardrobe for a never-ending game of dress up. He just doesn’t look relaxed or natural, his clothes are wearing him!

 

[Caustic Man]

That’s the key, his clothes do look like they wear him. I can’t speak to what he feels inside but he doesn’t look comfortable in them. Everything looks “just so.” So organized and perfect. Like a mannequin in a museum rather than a person who dresses the way he does as a matter of course.

 

[starro]

Since we're discussing visual impressions this gentleman leaves us, I think it's appropriate to bring up what a psychologist/neurologist calls the Ted Cruz effect (remember 2016 anyone?).

Look at this

Here's the article on the "Ted Cruz effect": https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...-ted-cruz-s-facial-expression-makes-me-uneasy

Here's the two of them, on picture day, saying Cheese:

And is it possible the gentleman goes to the same barber as Richard Spencer?

As to criticism of his clothing choices, they are the choices of a typical dandy. And all criticism of the genus applies to the species.