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Money Never Sleeps sartorial critique thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Recoil, Feb 24, 2010.

  1. cptjeff

    cptjeff Senior member

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    This is true in my experience, but they don't look like shit because they are earning tens of millions of dollars a year and can afford not to worry about what people think: it's simply because most of them never did care about their looks and appearance. They didn't care when they earned $30k a year and they don't care now. That's why you get so many badly dressed buy-siders [​IMG] Sell-siders generally care more and dress better but the average level is still pretty low. A lot of the top guys dress in expensive stuff but just aren't snappy dressers; I remember thinking this when looking at John Mack up close a few years back. No doubt there are many, like Blankfein, who realise they should look less nerdy and hire somebody to dress them when they start appearing in public regularly. TD
    If you read the article posted earlier, it was never about accuracy with the original, nor is it with this one. It's about building a world, an image, and a character. The first movie did a much better job of that then panned- it made a real dent on the men's fashion scene. It inspired quite a few of the posters here, from some threads I've seen. Accuracy was never the point. They know that the real wall street dresses like crap. But they're too busy building the imagery of a cutthroat world of money and power to care.
     
  2. rgoldstein

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    This has been my experience in my short (and thankfully soon to end) stint in the men's clothing business. I once had a high level banking exec (I recognized him from Forbes but kept my mouth shut [​IMG]) come into the store on my up. He was wearing pants from a very expensive cashmere suit (it coulda been a Kiton. [​IMG] OMG), a Brooks Bros. OCBD, and a sloppily tied Ferragamo tie. I laughed because nobody else would have given him a second look. He looked like a staff auditor or a personal injury attorney who just happened to have an exceptional haircut. [​IMG] I, for one, am going to see Money Never sleeps. Maybe even the midnight showing. It might suck, but I'm dying to see MD's wardrobe...and laugh heartily at Mr. LeBeef's.
    This is true in my experience, but they don't look like shit because they are earning tens of millions of dollars a year and can afford not to worry about what people think: it's simply because most of them never did care about their looks and appearance. They didn't care when they earned $30k a year and they don't care now. That's why you get so many badly dressed buy-siders [​IMG] Sell-siders generally care more and dress better but the average level is still pretty low. A lot of the top guys dress in expensive stuff but just aren't snappy dressers; I remember thinking this when looking at John Mack up close a few years back. No doubt there are many, like Blankfein, who realise they should look less nerdy and hire somebody to dress them when they start appearing in public regularly. TD
     
  3. tokyodandy

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    Accuracy was never the point. They know that the real wall street dresses like crap. But they're too busy building the imagery of a cutthroat world of money and power to care.

    I did read it before I posted and very interesting it was too. The poster of the message to which I replied and myself I were simply striking off on a bit of a tangent from the original subject.

    What did surprise me about the article was that the director actually realised that Wall Streeters didn't dress the way the wardrobe people were portraying them.

    TD
     
  4. Watchaholic

    Watchaholic Well-Known Member

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    However the movie turns out, you know many tailors are gonna be seeing a increase in business because of it.. Looking forward to seeing it as well - thanks for the shots LVoer
     
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    PhiloVance Senior member

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    I read somewhere that Leonard Logsdail-London did Denzel Washington's suits for American Gangster.
     
  7. edmorel

    edmorel Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Movie tailor named - Leonard Logsdail.

    He's gonna be really busy now...


    His suits are in the 5K range, that excludes 98% of the population.

    I read somewhere that Leonard Logsdail-London did Denzel Washington's suits for American Gangster.

    Yes, but I still doubt, that blue checkboard jacket was made by him. At least I hope not.
     
  8. GBer

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    His suits are in the 5K range, that excludes 98% of the population.


    I still believe the publicity will increase his business significantly. 2% of the population is still a lot of people.
     
  9. HRoi

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    Lebuff truly has one of the most punchable faces in Hollywood. which is obviously saying a lot ps - please stop quoting cock bulge photo [​IMG]
     
  10. hermes man

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    i am so getting the gucci shoe.............. [​IMG] hope i can save enough money by then and wear it when i watch the movie
     
  11. WhateverYouLike

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    i am so getting the gucci shoe.............. [​IMG]

    hope i can save enough money by then and wear it when i watch the movie


    Where are the updates to your blog, man? Your readership eagerly awaits.
     
  12. hermes man

    hermes man Senior member

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    Where are the updates to your blog, man? Your readership eagerly awaits.

    oh i just came back from visiting relatives.. been away for a week .. celebrating hari raya..

    happy that you like my blog [​IMG] will update soon but they isnt any new purchases because i am still broke [​IMG]
     
  13. Bull

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    This has been my experience in my short (and thankfully soon to end) stint in the men's clothing business. I once had a high level banking exec (I recognized him from Forbes but kept my mouth shut [​IMG]) come into the store on my up. He was wearing pants from a very expensive cashmere suit (it coulda been a Kiton. [​IMG] OMG), a Brooks Bros. OCBD, and a sloppily tied Ferragamo tie. I laughed because nobody else would have given him a second look. He looked like a staff auditor or a personal injury attorney who just happened to have an exceptional haircut. [​IMG]

    I, for one, am going to see Money Never sleeps. Maybe even the midnight showing. It might suck, but I'm dying to see MD's wardrobe...and laugh heartily at Mr. LeBeef's.


    Spot-on. Especially on the sell side, it's never about the total look, only the individual pieces. Hermes tie - green with light blue dolphins on it? Check. Requisite horse-bit Gucci loafers? Check. Oxxford suit? Check. Turnbull shirt? Check. Fits well? Rarely. Frumpy? Absolutely. Tie knot could be fucked up, fit could be awful, doesn't matter. On the sell side, there are a few "marquee" brands and you're always "correct" and "appropriate" if you wear from those brands, regardless of the total package. In SF, those in the know say "fit before quality." That's absolutely true in the real world, just not on Wall Street. With those guys, it's all wink-nod-grin, yup, you've nailed it, you get the joke, you've got the right pieces on, now let's grab a drink.
     
  14. jefferyd

    jefferyd Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Did anyone ever find this jacket fabric?

    I'm pretty sure it's Scabal- I'll check on Monday.
     
  15. Dressed2the9s

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    No doubt, Gordon Gekko in the windowpane trou and braces with white gut ends changed shit forever. I just don't think this film will have the same effect, that's all I'm saying.
     
  17. Captain Winky

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    None of these pics is true to Wall Street.

    Generally, Wall Streeters dress like fucking slobs. John Paulson is the only hedge fund manager I can think of who looks presentable. OK, maybe Jim Chanos. No other names come to mind.

    Among bank execs, Lloyd Blankfein always looks well turned out, and Dimon of course looks good, maybe a couple others. But that's it.

    In fact, in the PE/hedge fund world, we always say that you can tell who the amateurs are, because they're wearing ties. The guys who have $5b+ under management roll into your office looking like shit. And they can - I mean, what do they care? Two & twenty or three & fifty (which is what Stevie Cohen and few others can get) on $5b+ is a level of earning where you could give a shit what people think of your choice in clothing.

    Anyway, the outfits in this film are fun to look at, but far, far off the mark, based on my experience.


    Oh so true of entertainment too! In general, you have your agents who wear flashy stuff, often fits like shit, usually paired with ugly Prada shoes. A few dress really well, but they're the exception. Then you have the managers who try and dress half way presentable, maybe ill-fitting dress pants and a shirt with the collar stays left at home. Producers are another level all together, in old t-shirts and flip flops to meetings. Studio execs run the gammut, depending on their rank/department.
     
  18. howardu09

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    MD looks really fucking old.

    Yeah, we should all just overdose after 25. [​IMG] The nerve.....How do you think he should look? I see absolutely nothing wrong with a man looking his age.
     
  19. Captain Winky

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    Yeah, we should all just overdose after 25. [​IMG].

    Uh, no, you're confusing MD and his son...
     
  20. westinghouse

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    Movie tailor named - Leonard Logsdail.


    http://www.gilt.com/manual/2010/09/d...-gordon-gekko/

    He's gonna be really busy now...


    ^^^^^^^Yeah, I wrote that a few posts up

    As a matter of fact, I wrote that on another post over a month ago.

    Reading is fundamental.
     

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