Anyway, the main thing I'm confused about was the fact that a size 32 in the 201 would measure 33 instead of BiG's 34, but I guess that's okay since 33" will shrink down to 32" then stretch back an inch. Looks like I'm going with the tagged 32s! Thanks guys and wish me luck... hate having a nice pair of denim in front of me that can't be worn because of fit EDIT: Forgot to say that I'm hemming these quite a bit to about32-33" pre-soak since I'm somewhat short. So will that give me a huge leg opening that needs tapering? no, 201s are straight with a slight 1" taper from knee to hem. just make sure you give a clear instruction on hemming__ indicate raw/"pre-soak" :: or "after wash" wherein they will put in shrinkage allowance upon hemming.