Modern greeks uglier than ancient greeks?

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  1. tagutcow

    tagutcow Senior member

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    This is the old "Fallmerayer Thesis" that was proposed by an Austrian scholar of that name. His argument ran that the "ancient" Greeks had pretty well all perished in the course of the extensive plagues and invasions of late antiquity and the early middle ages and that the modern inhabitants of Greece were mostly descendants of Slavic immigrants with a later admixture of Albanians. This got a lot of notice because it was published in the 1830s at the very time the Greeks were struggling for their freedom from Turkish rule. The Greeks were getting a lot of sympathy at the time because they were the heritors of the glorious civilization of ancient Greece, especially since educated people in Europe and elsewhere were far better educated in the classics than today. I guess the corollary was that it was somehow more acceptable for the Turks to oppress Slavs and Albanians than the heritors of Aeschylus, Phidias and Plato, odd though that may seem to us today.

    I love how JLib will accasionally alight onto a thread and dispense actual knowledge. Thank you. Why occasionally did the same, but I haven't seen him round these here parts for many a moon.

    Is there any equivalent theory explaining the brain drain of the Italians? How did the same race give us both Leonardo Da Vinci and "The Situation"?
     
  2. Pantisocrat

    Pantisocrat Senior member

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    I love how JLib will accasionally alight onto a thread and dispense actual knowledge. Thank you. Why occasionally did the same, but I haven't seen him round these here parts for many a moon. Is there any equivalent theory explaining the brain drain of the Italians? How did the same race give us both Leonardo Da Vinci and "The Situation"?
    ^ This is simply not substantiated. Italians have the highest IQ in Europe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_Global_Inequality Hong Kong \t107 \t108 \t27,490 \t60.8 Singapore \t103 \t108 \t23,730 \t60.7 North Korea \t105* \t106* \t1,000 \t38 South Korea \t106 \t106 \t16,960 \t75.4 Japan \t105 \t105 \t27,380 \t71.4 Taiwan \t104 \t105 \t23,400 \t79.4 China \t100 \t105 \t4,520 \t39.7 Italy \t102 \t102 \t26,170 \t78.9 Iceland \t98* \t101 \t29,240 \t80 Mongolia \t98* \t101* \t1,710 \t48.1 Switzerland \t101 \t101 \t31,840 \t82.2 Austria \t102 \t100 \t28,910 \t80.7 Luxembourg \t101* \t100* \t53,230 \t76.4 Netherlands \t102 \t100 \t28,350 \t82.8 Norway \t98 \t100 \t36,690 \t89 United Kingdom \t100 \t100 \t26,580 \t76.7 Germany \t102 \t99 \t26,980 \t78 Belgium \t100 \t99 \t28,130 \t84.1 Canada \t97 \t99 \t28,930 \t77.8 Estonia \t97* \t99 \t11,630 \t64.5 Finland \t97 \t99 \t26,160 \t85.1 New Zealand \t100 \t99 \t20,550 \t76.2 Poland \t99 \t99 \t10,450 \t62.7 Sweden \t101 \t99 \t25,820 \t82.9 Andorra \tN/A \t98* \t19,000 \t58.7 ....etc.
     
  3. Cool The Kid

    Cool The Kid Senior member

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    I don't know about this, but I do know Greek women are notorious for having nice juicy bubble butts

    Those damn Moors got em good...

    *EDIT* If Italians have the highest IQs why is Italy broke
     
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    I don't know about this, but I do know Greek women are notorious for having nice juicy bubble butts Those damn Moors got em good... *EDIT* If Italians have the highest IQs why is Italy broke
    It's still one of the richest countries in the world, and is responsible for many SF approved merchandise. To make all those pleated Brioni ties and fast Ferraris take a lot of brain power. It's possible that some of the smarter Italians have left Italy during down times.
     
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    they didn't make chisels small enough to accurately capture all the body pubes.
     
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    Yeah, 500 years from now, people will leaf through electronic copies of GQ, Cosmo and Vogue and say...wow, people back then were really thin and gorgeous. And so wealthy too!
     
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    I don't know about this, but I do know Greek women are notorious for having nice juicy bubble butts

    Those damn Moors got em good...


    *EDIT* If Italians have the highest IQs why is Italy broke


    It's Moops.
     
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    I love how JLib will accasionally alight onto a thread and dispense actual knowledge. Thank you. Why occasionally did the same, but I haven't seen him round these here parts for many a moon.



    Is there any equivalent theory explaining the brain drain of the Italians? How did the same race give us both Leonardo Da Vinci and "The Situation"?


    A sincere LOL on that last question. [​IMG]

    JLib hangs around the talk forums of leftist UK papers.
     
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    I love how JLib will accasionally alight onto a thread and dispense actual knowledge. Thank you. Why occasionally did the same, but I haven't seen him round these here parts for many a moon.
    No shit! Damn, talk about a thread with the potential for pages of pure speculation, and JLib nipped that right in the bud.
     
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    they didn't make chisels small enough to accurately capture all the body pubes.

    This made me LOL.
     
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    In 2,000 years when they find our magazines, they will assume everyone is a model... which is not the case.
     
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    JLib hangs around the talk forums of leftist UK papers.


    I do???!!! That's certainly news to me. Could you clue me in about this? Might be another Libourel.
     
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    Not much different than what we see today in Magazines, newspapers and movies/tv. In 1000 years, they'll probably say the same about Americans.
     
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    As a learned man, I visit a lot of museums, which inevitably contain a Greek collection of nude statutes among other notable collections. The sculptures always project life size figures of great beauty. However, many Greeks I meet in person are not as attractive. Why?

    As a lazy child with a lot of free time I watched a lot of American TV and movies, where the women were always beautiful and the men always handsome. However, when I go to the mall over here many of the people are rotund hambeasts dressed in sweatpants. Why?
     
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    Afaik the people living in Greece today are a different ethnicity than the ones 1000 bc.

    You ugly fool. I am Greek and very, very good looking. Apart from that the ethnicity of the Greeks has recently been proved on a DNA basis to be the same as their ancient Greek forefathers.

    Ottoman occupation in large parts of Greece meant a depletion of Greeks. Any intermarriage between Greek and Ottoman resulted in both the offspring and the married greek being considered a Turk from that point forward. In the early 1920's and during the 1800's large population exchanges took place in which those "non-Greeks" were sent off to Asia minor.

    Thus leaving Greece with only Greeks in it. After so many thousands of years, why do you think the population is only around 11.5 million?
     

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