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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Spirit of 69, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. Man-of-Mystery

    Man-of-Mystery Senior member

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  2. covskin

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    To confuse things, my mother called the jackets known on here as monkey jackets windcheaters!
     
  3. Dave Davies

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    Just picked up a MR shirt fabric seems thicker, really nice, the collar is one of the things I love most about MR, the size is just right for a good roll and sits fine. as you said maybe it was the thinness that was the problem for you rather than the collar size as they are around 3.5 inches which from what I've read is around the size most like (mercer for example are 3 7/16) choose for their shirts. Plus I've tried so many different brands that to get a shirt to fit me is a real pain, M2M is good way to go but the quality of material and workmanship can differ even from order to order and I've tried different ones, I'd rather pay more and know it'll be what I want. The only downside of MR for me is the contrast pockets, not a fan, so I can only go for the plain ones.
     
  4. Bob the Badger

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    I had a red jacket similar to James Dean's in the 80's and called it a blouson.

    We didn't wear donkey jackets but some mates had them when the skinhead thing was over and wore them at football.

    Pea coats were not worn by us but older mods liked them.

    I didn't see that girl's hairstyle. Our girlfriends tended to have shoulder length hair. MoM's sketch is much more accurate for the young skinhead girls look.

    Good to post on Page 1969. A significant date in the skinhead history!

    By we and us I don't speak for everyone in 1969 just me and my mates and what I saw around London at that time.
     
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    In the 80s, here in California, would have called Dean's red jacket a golf jacket. Windbreakers, as we referred to them, had no lining.
     
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    Hard mods in Hounslow !! didnt notice too many of those down the Rick Tick, I have read 'Friday on my mind' and it made me laugh.
     
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    :D. Classic stuff!
     
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    I'll get the spoons out[​IMG]
     
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    I had a pair of those Shoes back then-they were a spin off from the Desert Boots.Very comfortable. :)
     
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    The Author is being discredited(I believe)for some of the Statements he made-in "Friday On My Mind",by those who were there.Interesting you used to go to the Ricky Tick in Hounslow. :)
     
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    I recall a pr my Sister made for me for my birthday-Herringbone Tweed with a small 1/2 belt and buckle at the back.Seem to think it was '69 and the best present I had ever got.They were probably more parallel than flares tbh,but certainly wider than anything I had worn before as a kid.
     
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    I remember Donkey jackets in the early 80s, never liked them, the shoulders were PVC and not leather...
    I always heard that in the beginning the skinheads who wore them were working as garbage men, that they weren't considered as a "proper" piece of clobber, and that they were mostly wear for practical reasons...
     
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    Didn't Rowland and Dexy's MR pick that up

    [​IMG]

    I certainly wore a variation of that

    Loved this album btw too

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  14. covskin

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    Same here, somewhere in between late 70s mod and early 80s skinhead for me. Proper workwear.
     
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    I've heard that with that particular incarnation of Dexy's, the look was based on 'Mean Streets'. I really don't see it. (I'm a big fan of some of DeNiro's clobber in that.) Dockworkers that do a bit of boxing on the side is how I'd best describe Dexy's look there.
    It's definitely better than the 'tinker' look that followed. It is a cracking album though. Gawd knows why they ditched the decent horn-section for fiddles, banjos and double-bass'. That's the mercurial nature of KR for you.
     
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    You're probably right good sir. However, the dustman stigma with donkey jackets isn't present in the US. Personally, I've always liked the look of a donkey jacket, and my APC one has a leather yoke/shoulders and is made from nice melton wool. Granted, it's more of a workwear looking jacket and I wouldn't wear it the way I'd wear a chesterfield/Crombie, but I do like it with faded jeans, polished boots, and a black/gold barred scarf. A sharp but casual look, and a bit of an "undercover brother" look that dosn't scream "skinhead!", at least here in the snowy wastelands of this sleepy little village, my Boston.
     
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    Hey Botolph, have we met? Boston isn't that big.
     
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    Donkey Jackets.
    During the 60s and 70s they were worn by manual workers ( not just dustbin men ) who had outside work,building workers,lorry drivers etc.
    Probably the most famous Donkey jacket wearer back then was Stan Ogden a character in Coronation Street,perhaps Britains answer to Rodney Harrington ?.
    Some firms issued their work force with Donkey jackets,I think the coal miners had orange hi viz instead of black PVC on the shoulders and a firm that I worked for had one sleeve in an orangey / brown colour ( to stop you stealing it ),Courage brewery workers locally had a dark brown Donkey jacket in their distribution centre.
    Late 60s early 70s the only skinheads that I saw wearing them were at football matches ( particularly evening games) if the wearer had come straight from work,if they had gone home first they would definitely have changed.
    Donkey jackets ( or DJs as we jokingly called them ) did not all have the PVC shoulders,some were unlined and were crap when working outside in cold windy weather,the more expensive ones were lined,Millets was one place that sold them.
    About 77 or 78 they did become popular for a short while and I saw skinheads then wearing them at football or to punk gigs.
    I was surprised when I went to Germany in the 90s and saw that some skinheads there wore them as skinhead clothes.
    Funny thing is that I have only seen one person wearing a Donkey jacket in about the last 15 / 20 years here ( and I bet he was a European lad on holiday),there are much better jackets for manual workers available,waterproof and windproof and hi viz is safer.
     
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    Yes, supposedly based on the style portrayed in the film 'On the Waterfront' - though to me it looks more Rocky Balboa than Marlon Brando......

    With regard to donkey jackets, they were not an item worn by skinheads in our area but I did see some on visiting Aston Villa fans in September 1970. Generally the Villa fans were 'bang on the money' with their look but I had never seen a skinhead in a donkey jacket before that day - maybe they had come straight from work?

    In Britain the donkey jacket has traditionally been worn by all sorts of manual and industrial workers (not just 'bin-men' or 'dust-men' -depending on your locality). I had one when I worked on the market and really enjoyed wearing it at the time, it was warm and hard wearing- 'rugged', in fact. Years later, now working in academia (I use the term loosely!) I shared an office with the trade union guys and they were talking about industrial action. Somewhat tongue in cheek I said, "I'm with you fellas, we'll be out there on the picket line with our donkey jackets and brazier" They all looked sheepish. "Well those of us who have ever worn a donkey jacket to work will" I added, "You champagne socialists! you've never done a proper days work in your lives....."
     
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