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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Spirit of 69, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. Cleav

    Cleav Senior member Moderator

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  2. con man

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    No disrespect to the fellow, with the Ruperts on, but he doesn't exactly look like a cool Steve McQueen or suave James Bond, nor do the rest with all that hair. Very far removed from Mod , put leather jackets on them and they could be Fribbos, don't get me wrong, I know long hair was the fashion in the 70's and as a kid by the mid 70's my hair was as long as this, but this is where the rot set in, don't they say that the 70's was the decade that fashion forgot or something along those lines......and perhaps that is why, less than a decade after the last of original Skinheads, kids looked back at that smart look and tried to emulate it,......sorry if I'm repeating whats already been said!!!
     
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    I paid just under £8 for Royals....My wages as a 15 year old in 69 was £11, So the shoes was near a weeks wages for me, Loake was just under half that price, Some parents would buy those shoes for their Kids....London back then had plenty of money ...and Cockneys was flash...and Cockneys was generous....:)


    Another thing some people are smart , some people think they are smart, and some people have not a clue....I do agree about the Armani suit ...:D
     
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    Con Man..Once the Skinheads ended we just lost it...from about late 71 it became embarrassing...But that pic is a good example where it started to go wrong, but like the original skinheads it was just the fashion of the time ..and that should not be forgotten ..just fashion.
     
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    I had a pair of Loakes royals and a pair of there loafers, i wouldn't say they were terrible shoes, just not comfy for me ( no give ),
    Church's, Alden, Royals etc are in a different class, but that comes at a price, unless you go down the 2nd hand route.

    The Loakes smooths look ok to me, but i've not owned a pair so cant comment on what there like to live with.
    I managed to get hold of a pair of Royals, fantastic shoes which sadly i had to let go ( to narrow )
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    I replaced them with these, virtually indentical, and not far short in terms of quality with the Royals
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    Thanks to a good mate, i've got a pair of Royals loafers
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    Back to Flyfronted question regarding smooths, not sure if Jones the bootmakers are doing a smooth at the moment, but if they are i'd snap a pair up,
    picked these up a short time ago, the quality of there shoes never fails to impress me.
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    From the Northern Soul facebook page, very ironed jeans!
     
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    I agree with a lot of the recent posts about Loakes,I have 3 pairs and I find them very comfortable and a good price for what you get so I agree with con man.

    However that reasonable price comes by using corrected leather and getting more shoes from a piece of leather so I agree with Mr Knightley.

    Loake have chosen their position in the market and as Lasttye has pointed out they are hundreds of pound cheaper than Churchs,so is it really right to compare the two ? its a bit like saying that an Aston Martin is better than a Ford Focus.

    I think that the Loake 771 plain is the same as the Royal but without the brogue pattern ? you can get them for about a £100 if you look about surely pretty good value.

    I am quite lucky at the moment that I am not on a budget ( it hasn't always been so and life could change again ) but I do look at price when I am buying and think how much I will wear something.
    TBH I wouldnt pay over £275 perhaps for shoes,Cheaney and Allen Edmond will still be within that price so you can still get something with good quality and heritage.
     
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    "Donis" was the Boutique where I bought my first pair of Mod "Hipsters" in `64,along with other bits-like a white Belt .....:)
     
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    Buttons gets everywhere !!!! :)
     
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    About 10+years ago(when I returned from Cyprus),I bought a pair of Alfred Sargent`s Smooth Gibsons.They have lasted me well-and they did not break the Bank.
     
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    To go back to the subject of Parents buying their Kids Royals,they certainly did.I remember going past a Senior Boys School and youths of 13/14 coming out with Royals with their School Uniforms on.To me that was when the rot really set in.
     
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    Remember being taken down there as a kid by aunts, shopping for clothes around 68-70. And then the early to mid 70s, its nadir, the Jam even sung about it [​IMG] .
    At a later stage, 77 onwards, I never used the place, many of us associated it either with a very much younger crowd or because the shops sold, in the main, poor quality, mass market appeal stuff. I suppose at least it wasnt Leicester Square though with it 'residents' of glue sniffers!
     
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    [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG] Classic!!
     
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    thanks for clearing that up Lasttye,
    I guess you are right, there was more money around back then and little unemployment. And London has always had more money than the rest of the country.
    Just looked at average wages in the UK, in London it's about £650, in Cardiff about £450, so I guess an average wage across the UK, would probably be around the £500-£550 mark.
    You say you spent around 3/4 of your wage as a Londoner, so I'm guessing, (my maths is shit) that equates (my English is shit) to around £480 in todays terms.
    I love my kids very much, but bollocks to me paying that kind of money for shoes for them when they were teenagers, luckily for me they are in their 20's now and paying their own way.
    It's funny how times change, just 14 years after you were earning £11, I was earning £25 per week and giving my parents £10 of it, I'm not 100% sure, (my memory, not as good as yours), but I reckon Doc Martin boots were somewhere around the £25- £30 mark, in 1983, it would have taken me at least 2 weeks to save up for them, but in reality a lot longer, what with, paying out on going to football, ciggys and beer.

    and definetly agree........some people do think they are smart, when they look at themselves in the mirror or see a photo of themselves, they must think wow, look at that sharply dressed fellow.........but I guess it's all down to the eye of the beholder, I know of one or two people like this, but little do they know, a lot of people take the piss out them.
     
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    I have a pair of Jones wingtips that look the part - ill pop into Jones today .. thanks .
     
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    A discussion for the other thread? The 771 fits a half size smaller than the brogue royal for the same size according to the younger bloke in Discount Shoes so something else is going on there (even thicker insoles might do this I think). I agree that the seam on the inside of the foot makes the 771 look a bit 'busy' from that angle but it is less noticeable on the black than on the oxblood.

    So here is my chance to reminisce. First time I saw a skinhead I was with my mum on the bus home from primary school around 1970. He could have been anything from 12 to 20 and was wearing crombie, grey stapress, oxblood or cherry red boots. He jumped on as the bus moved off from a stop, quickly followed by a policeman! As he was led from the bus the women referred to him as a skinhead and I knew I wanted to be like that. I wore monkey boots and surfer jacket around then (thanks mum!) - I think we knew them as football jackets as they were supposedly in football colours, but surfer jacket rings a bell too. I wore a succession of three of them aged 7, 8, 9 so must have worn them into 1973 or so - blue with maroon piping (West Ham), orange with black piping (Wolverhampton), light blue with darker blue(?) piping (Manchester City). Trevira is another word from this thread that rang a bell, but from where? Just remembered last week that I was babysat now and then by a couple of sisters of around 15 from a few doors along who wore those long coat and short skirt outfits - another formative moment. Across the road from us were two brothers who cut down their scooters and painted them yellow! Aged 11 I went to secondary school and, with my mouth, started hanging around with the fifth years who were all bootboys, crombie and boots but with the beginnings of those nasty 70s mullets, cropped on top to begin with before the dreaded centre parting took hold. I never went with that but went with a too short for the mid-70s caesar cut with strangely pre-Weller side partings that got me labelled as a punk aged 13/14, which suited me fine as I hated flares and Pink Floyd. From there I went to schoolboy mod then 2 Tone 'rudeboy' then proper skinhead as I knew I always would.
     
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    Got my first pair from Timpsons - black then brown - and paid £6.15s for them.

    Somewhere back in this forum, someone even posted a pic of the Timpson loafers from that time, which had a little buckle-type affair, almost with a nod to Gucci's iconic loafers. (Though not the quality.) :embar:
     

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