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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Spirit of 69, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. Man-of-Mystery

    Man-of-Mystery Senior member

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    Anybody else from the Class of 69 remember the 'pop-a-top' rhythm which - very briefly - was touted as the 'next' development of reggae?

    The disc that heralded it was Andy Capp's 'Pop-a-Top'. 'Andy Capp' was Linford Anderson, and the record was a dub version of Derrick Morgan's 'Fat Man'.

    The Hot Rod Allstars brought out a minimal version of 'Liquidator' called 'Lick-a-Pop'.

    The Upsetters brought out 'Clint Eastwood'. That was actually the backing track of Lee Perry's version of 'Yackety Yack'. Amazingly 'Clint Eastwood' worked, and was a club hit around my old stamping ground, whereas 'Yackety Yack' was just awful with the vocals added.

    Needless to say, whether any of these records was good or bad, pop-a-top didn't become 'the next thing'.
     
  2. Kingstonian

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    People seem to forget Mike Raven.
    His weekend show on radio 1 provided all the new releases and covered everything. He pioneered
    (Intentional play on words) reggae on radio 1 - not John Peel. This was long before Bob Marley made it big time. He also covered black music back to Bessie Smith and Robert Johnson - very informative.

    Raven did not use jingles or a phoney American accent. He was an educated man from a privileged background but he did not try to pretend otherwise. He knocked it on the head early 70s and went off to do horror movies and sculpting.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Raven
     
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  3. Man-of-Mystery

    Man-of-Mystery Senior member

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    You're entirely correct. Apologies - I did forget Mike Raven (probably because Peel's longevity overshadowed him) and in fact I used to listen to him quite a lot now I come to think of it.
     
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    Now I just accepted that it was just the reggae from the day. Please give me a few more titles. Are you referring to the 'instrumental' type of records ie 'The Law part 2, Elizabethan reggae, Egyptian reggae, squeeze up part 2, Mr Pop corn, Dynamic pressure, etc. etc.

    Just for that couple of years I thought the reggae records produced in that period were very enjoyable singles probably for the memories they bring back. I have been able to download loads from youtube that I thought I would never hear again. Before youtube I had to purchase odd cds just to rip 1 track off them

    Any titles that you think appropriate from the day I would be grateful to check out for my own collection
     
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    Cerneabbas - I may be mistaken here but I have taken the girls top not to be a checked BD shirt unfastened but a light coloured lace material blouse (note the tight sleeves) These were popular with the girls in our area 1970/71. Yet another example of how the girls then were much more feminine than the image of skinhead girls that has emerged in the decades since.
     
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  7. Man-of-Mystery

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    You said it!
     
  8. Man-of-Mystery

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    No, just to that handful of records I referred to. What marked them apart was that jaunty rhythm that kinda went chicky-tick, chicky-tick, chicky-tick, chicky-ticky, chicky-tick... It was a very short-lived thing.
     
  9. cerneabbas

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    roytonboy..I may have caused confusion with my posts,I think that the girl in the tank top maybe wearing a plain BD with the buttons on the collar undone ( as you say it could be a blouse) I do remember lads doing this just before the "classic" round collar and tank top look became established.
    My other post about mainly seeing girls in check shirts here ( I meant under their suits ),I know that there have been a few pictures on here with that look including Pressure_Drops wife and I think some from the Twisted Wheel ?.
    I agree that a lot ( not all ) of the girls seemed more feminine than the later skinhead girls somewhat masculine (again not all ) look,that will make an interesting debate but not on this thread as it is a bit outside the Mod to Suedehead time frame.
     
  10. Ed Vaughan

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    In the run-up to penny rounds etc, I distinctly remember unbuttoning BS and Jaytex shirts to achieve the look, usually with a crew-neck or even a sleeveless tank top affair and mainly just for work.

    I'd just started to earn half-decent wages - for an apprentice - and wasn't prepared to bin the gear I had that had cost me so much in the first place.
     
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    Yes, it is a mohair tonic jacket with short sleeves, not seen these days but they were definitely worn back then. Here is another example taken from the movie Please Sir from 1971. You can also see the girls with the mohair dresses and top pocket hanky.

    [​IMG]

    I know a few original skinhead girls but they were not the same age and they lived in different cities. It's cool to talk with them because they all had different ways of dressing and hairstyles and I always get good tips and advice on how things were worn and done back then [​IMG]
     
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    The thing is that the pics were tiny as he had scanned them but not cut them (if that makes sense?), that's why I made the collage to make them bigger and they are a bit pixelated. I asked Tony if he could send them to me in a bigger format but he says he is not technical enough because computers were a distant dream in those days hahaha!

    I will ask him again though and I will ask him about reproducing the pictures too!
     
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    I can remember the short sleeved Jackets on Girls.My Girlfriend Mary(in `69)had a Green and Gold Tonic Mohair one The Dresses(with the top pocket hankie) came a little later-when the Bun was becoming popular.
     
  14. Man-of-Mystery

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    Yes, I remember the time when we were all growing our hair, I saw lots of blokes with longer hair, BS shirts with the collar unbuttoned, still wearing mohair or PoW strides. It wasn't a deliberate look as such, just blokes not wanting to throw away decent clothes, while maybe saving up for a newer 'look'.
     
  15. gabriela

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    Yes, I reckon I have only seen mohair dresses in pictures from 1970, 1971 and 1972. However, I do not know what year Tony's sister's pictures are from as he did not say. He did say that that mohair dress in particular was the first their tailor was asked for and that they would do anything to be a bit different (he told me some things lol) but 6 weeks later everybody would do the same as usual.

    Now that you mention buns, I wear my hair in a ponytail or in a bun, a big change from my previous hairstyle that was very short, similar to what Julie Driscoll would wear or so I tried haha. My friend Jan from Reading, she was 18 in 1969, told me that from the front I was looking exactly how they looked back then but that she couldn't see the back as it was not shown in the picture. She didn't remember buns at first, for her the back of the hair would be plaited and tucked under. Then my friend Julie from London, she did remember the buns and the net buns, which I have not seen and would like to see.
     
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    A lot of Girls(who did not consider themselves Skinhead Girls-though they hung about with Skinheads)had the Bun with strands of hair down the sides.This was some of the older Girls to start with.If I can remember,and this is very vague,I believe some Girls would wear their Buns-inside white or black crochet nets.This would mainly be worn with Jeans.:)
     
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    This was the original "Smooths" Look,just before the Patterned Shirts kicked in.I wish I could find the original Photo of a Guy from Stepney(late `70)-he had Shoulder Length Hair with Mohair Trousers-with 1/2 Turn-up and Royal Smooths.When they show "Smooths" it is later when the Look had moved further on.
     
  18. Mr Knightley

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    Quote:This picture of bunty's brother from 1971, I believe, shows this combination. I assume it was the last skinhead style suit he bought and which was pressed into service for the wedding. His normal attire by then would have moved on I guess. As I'm sure I've said before, girls seemed ready and able to move on much quicker - as shown here: http://cdn.styleforum.net/4/47/900x900px-LL-47550cc2_P1010537.jpeg
     
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  19. Ed Vaughan

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    A few minutes of shoe porn here:



    Apologies if a re-post.
     
  20. Cleav

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    Thanks Ed V, I enjoyed that. All good especially the passion he has it's there in spades
     

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