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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Spirit of 69, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. Clouseau

    Clouseau Senior member

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    I had some spare time today at lunchtime. So i took an "autolib" (electric car you can rent easily and for cheap in the town) and drove to the other side of Paris, to the Rue de la Pompe, where stands the "Whitehouse", the shop Renoma opened fifty years ago, in 1963.
    There is a small exhibition in the shop for the "jubilee" of Renoma. In the 60s, this shop soon became famous. You could meet there the "Minets", the notorious ones from the Drugstore gang as the others, and celebrities from all over the world : Dali, Gainsbourg, Catherine Deneuve, Warhol, Dylan, Picasso, Jean Seberg, Lagerfeld, YSL, Lennon, Jagger, BB... etc.
    Renoma clothes were used in movies at the time. Maurice Renoma was a photographer too, and the main part of the exhibition consists in pictures he took of his friends, his models, and his clothes. They are the bulk of the exhibition, retracing fifty years of fashion. There is a lot of press-cuts too, and of course clothes, shoes, and accessories.
    i couldn't take too many pictures, because of the salesmen and the customers, the exhibition is in the shop. I tried to shoot different things that the ones you could see in my last post on the subject.

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    This is a window outside the shop. you can see the famous Renoma blazer with a patch (ignore the jacket on the right). In the back, an ad from the sixties. At the time, you bought the Renoma Blazer (all the Minets wanted one) and choose a patch you had to saw yourself. Renoma did SB and DB.


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    This is a press-cut from the Herald Tribune dated 1963, mentioning Renoma, and the beginning of the fashion followed by those who'd be later called "Minets".


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    This is the famous "Vasarely" jacket by Renoma, made from 1964 to 1968. There is a reedition today in a capsule collection for the 50th birthday, called "Flashback".
    Vasarely was an artist, leader of the Op-art movement, who was a great inspiration for M.Renoma. He did various patterns for his jackets inspired by Vasarely. Very mod i think.


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    This one is from the "Bonnie & Clyde" collection, 1968-1969.


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    This is the Renoma jacket wore by John lennon for "Imagine".


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  2. cerneabbas

    cerneabbas Senior member

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    Bob the Badger,I agree with you about the Levis after my first pair I thought that they went downhill quality wise,I tried Wranglers and then wore Lee for a long time,I thought that they had a better shape.
    I went into Reiss yesterday,I had noticed a 3 button blazer in the window and a grey Crombie style coat,up close I was not impressed with the material and for the quality on offer I think their stuff comes under your category "expensive and shite"....I would rather pay more and get good quality,but where ?
     
  3. cerneabbas

    cerneabbas Senior member

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    I couldn't remember what badge it was,only that I copied you by wearing an enamel badge in the sheepskin lapel ( Rovers or West Ham).
    I think that quite a lot of people wore enamel badges ( not button ones ) back then ( mainly football ),I was talking to the GF about it today and she agreed that its something else that you don't see now,I wonder if people think that it will give someone an opportunity to start trouble?...I have looked some of my collection out, as usual the GF thinks that I should sell them,they just don't understand sometimes !.
    Are you tempted to buy another sheepskin ?,plenty on e bay,the GF says that they would probably stink and be full of moths that would destroy my clothes,oh and if I do buy one I cant wear it when I am out with her.!.....I almost think that she dosent want me to have one.
     
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  4. roytonboy

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    Some good post over the last couple of days, nicely 'on topic'

    Harringtons, I believe, really underline the difference between the north and the south, particularly London. Whilst you were not only wearing them a good twelve months earlier than us, you wore a range of colours. I didn't see my first one until late 1970, outside Maine Road. It was a black one. For 18 months previously we had all been wearing denim jackets by Levi or Wrangler. I use the term 'all' thoughtfully as it virtually was a uniform, the vast majority of us dressed pretty much the same. (by the same token - those colour photos of that mob from London that caused so much discussion would have raised a few laughs by us at the time - a couple of the lads look like they had been dressed by their Mum .- not 'skinhead' attire to us at all). The first person that I knew who had a Harrington was Steve Howe, who turned up at the school Christmas disco (1970) in one. It was Prince of Wales check. I believe it was only the second one I had seen, certainly the first one I had seen close up. Steve Howe was one of these lads who had wealthy parents and always had the smartest, most up to date clothes. By January 1971 I was starting to see them at Maine Road and lads I knew were talking about getting one, by March the Kippax was awash with them and they were nearly all black - I don't recall seeing other colours at all, except on girls (and they mostly wore black too). It was that 'uniform' thing again. Maybe some united fans wore red later on. Later still there was a brief fad for turning them inside out so they were like a tartan jacket. Of, course, you couldn't do this with the really cheap ones as they had nylon inner sleeves.
     
  5. Aces and Eights

    Aces and Eights Senior member

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    My that's brought back a memory I had forgotten all about. I had a black badge about 3/4 inch diameter with a white skull and the letters 'THINK' in gold. I recall putting it in after a short while after purchase and it stayed until the coat disintegrated and was thrown out.

    The coats fleece seemed to 'grow' around and over the badge - spooky!!
     
  6. cerneabbas

    cerneabbas Senior member

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    roytonboy.The only colours that I remember seeing then in Bristol were black,navy, royal blue and green ( and one in red/black two tone ).
    When you mention the wearing of them inside out to show the tartan reminds me that in 71 I saw lads wearing crombies with tartan on the pocket flaps and sometimes on the lapels,did you ever see that in your area ?
     
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  7. cerneabbas

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    Yes that was the great thing about the badge on the sheepskin,the badge kind of sunk back into the pile...what did your badge mean?
     
  8. cerneabbas

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    Clouseau.Good work with the Renoma pictures,I find it interesting about the Minets,something that I never knew about before I looked on this thread.
    Do you know what blazer badges they used ? what was the influence ? I would like to have the old Cerneabbas giant made into a blazer badge but its not such a good idea these days.
     
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  9. Clouseau

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    The funny thing is that the tradition of blazer badges didn't exist in France. So "Minets" chose them in the "White house Renoma" shop in a basket, according to their taste.
    What's interesting is the fact that in the beginning the Renoma brothers (at the time Maurice worked with his brother Michel) were very influenced by the Ivy League, known in France under the name of "Kennedy look". (see the title of the Herald's press-cut)
     
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  10. cerneabbas

    cerneabbas Senior member

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    So were the badges of the American universities ?
     
  11. Clouseau

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    This i don't know. I've got to meet an original from the "Drug" and ask him ! Not an easy task i guess. In the beginning of the "White house" most clients were members from the Drugstore gang.
     
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  12. cerneabbas

    cerneabbas Senior member

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    Maybe easier to compare the badges on the blazers with the American universities badges ?
    BTW on a different subject,what is the price of Paraboot Michael in Paris ? there is a big variation in price here.
     
  13. Clouseau

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    Between 284 and 305 euros
     
  14. cerneabbas

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    Strange,there is a shop here advertising them at £229 which would be cheaper than 284 euros.
    Checkout Alan Partridge blazer badge,he is a man with a certain style he calls it sports/casual.
     
  15. Clouseau

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    I just made a rough search, maybe it's possible to find cheaper.
    About "Alan partridge", i like Steve Coogan. Recently saw him in "The look of love"
     
  16. Con Seanery

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    Hi Everybody! Wow man, up to 1065 pages... Even though I haven't posted to this since pg.584, I've kept up my weekly reading. Nice to see all the contributors still going strong!

    Anyhoo, while reading the recent deals people have picked up, I wanted to throw this one into the mix:

    Last weekend I was in an outlet store looking to see if they had some of the dress socks sold at retail, -& they didn't. So on my way out, I strolled through the shoes to scope out my size (11). Cutting through the size 10.5 "dress shoes" & ready to exit that row to find the 11's, I see a closed Florsheim box with the front sticker stating "Color: Cordovan". I grabbed the box out & opened it up, & to my surprise, I'm looking at a pair of longwing brogues (New & still unlaced) in my size & placed in the wrong section (or hidden there)! I tried them on, & they fit perfect, -so I held onto the box...

    Noting that they were Florsheim for Duckie Brown, I broke my phone out for a bit of research to see exactly wtf I was holding. Turns out the serial #'s on the inside (19007-605) confirmed color as "Dark Cherry" & the "Genuine Horween Cordovan" stamp on each sole confirmed they were Shell Cordo & not the calf skin run of this shoe. -I then bought them for $100.

    Note: A year or so ago, these things retailed for $650 (overpriced for being in the Alden price range etc.). Obviously the make doesn't have the creds of Alden or similar, -but they are shell, & they have been in the box long enough to have not lightened in color. Color is not as dark as Alden cordo #8's, -its almost like a lighter black cherry color. Only thing I don't like is the out-sole (sidewall) and the welt is brown, -& not a cool natural brown or stained leather type brown, -looks like lighter shade of brown dressing to me. So now I'm going to strip the brown & re-coat the visible out-sole & welt black (comparable to an AE MacNeil). So with that done, probably about $112 spent on these things. Shoe is a basic gunboat, -compared to my AE MacNeil's the welt is thicker so these stand about 2mm higher from the floor, heel is about half inch shorter at the heel breast, & the toe is a tad rounder then my AE's (almost between AE & Alden). All-in-all a bit chunkier then my AE's.

    Sorry for the long winded story, -but hey, I haven't dumped anything to this for around 500 pages & I felt I almost had to tell the story because 2 days prior I was looking at vintage cordo Florsheim on the net & my wife walked in, looked at my laptop, rolled her eyes & said something like "dude you have those already" (I didn't even acknowledge her presence at that point).

    So at this point, on those casual days when I'm wearing jeans & a BD, I can now kick around in some cordo's without subconsciously tripping out on my shoe health... Not the best pics, but you know how that is...
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  17. cerneabbas

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    Welcome back,very nice shoes and although I am envious its good to see someone get a result.
     
  18. Aces and Eights

    Aces and Eights Senior member

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    I have no idea - but it must have had some relevance back then
     
  19. Con Seanery

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    Thanks Cerneabbas, yeah I'm pretty happy about it :)

    Quick heads-up: Brooks Brothers started the Veterans Day Sale today through Monday. Web has 75% off on a bunch of select stuff. In-Store has 25% off everything. Im picking up 4 more pairs of their sta-prest Saturday (Milano Advantage Chinos).

    That is all, Ill be back in about 500 pages ;)
     
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  20. cerneabbas

    cerneabbas Senior member

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    I searched for think skull badge and found that they are still sold by Hawkshaw motorcycles ( for £5 ),I wonder if its a motorbike safety thing,like think once think twice think bike,the safety advert.
    I said mainly enamel football badges but there were motorbike and scooter badges and I remember one lad used to wear an enamel shamrock badge.
     

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