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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Spirit of 69, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. Man-of-Mystery

    Man-of-Mystery Senior member

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    These may well be revival skins, but see the kid who's having his coat searched? Strides at that length, and with a turn-up like that - he's got a much better idea of how it was than these geezers you see with their skinny jeans rolled up to their knees!
     


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    Upon further investigation I have discovered that my Levi's Denim Jacket is mid 60's to 71.Same as the ones some of you folks wore back in the day.
     


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    Shall I limit my responses for you? Wouldn't want you losing precious sleep.
     


  4. roytonboy

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    Back in the day?!?! - I've still got 3!
     


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    I saw a bloke (probably in his twenties) about 10 years ago in Leeds - he'd really made an effort but ..... Brown cord Wrangler jacket, checked shirt, Wrangler Jeans, Cherry Red Doc. Martens, Skinhead haircut - all the right ingredients but stuff that would never have been worn together at the time. It crossed my mind to have a word but

    a) he was with his girlfriend and I didn't want to embarrass him
    b) he was about 3 inches taller and 3 stone heavier than me and I didn't want to lose my teeth!

    Still, as long as he was happy...........
     


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    Yes, going back in time......

    I do post on other threads of course!
     


  8. McDermott

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    Two questions..
    1) why wouldnt that combination have been worn ? Because Cord jackets were usually worn with sta prest or the alike ? And by the time the rest of the outfit would catch on the boots would have been dropped and moved onto shoes ?
    2) Does it matter ? Not having a go, but surely if you look smart you look smart. Im not talking about really pushing the boundries here (eg. Mixing much later 70's with early 60's) , but if its part of the 'uniform'..surely ? How are we, as the next Generation meant to know. I was at a soul nigh a couple of months ago and some guy made the effort to walk up to me and said 'we never had those' and Jabbed me in the cheek (referring to the sideburns) 'that was a rocker thing' and he sounded a bit annoyed. I said that hundreds would dissagree with him there, and also that photos would show otherwise. He then kept going at me about being a rocker, to which my Dad (who was there with me) said i wasnt and a soulie/skinhead. At which point the guy said to my dad 'oh yeah ? and where did you go ?' my dad answered with the usual ' what ? soul wise ? wigan casino, blackpool mecca, okeh club, central, cleethorpes etc'' and all this guy could say was..''so what was the first place in wigan that played soul music ?''. Its annoying you get these people with a chip on there shoulder who want you to fill out some sort of questionaire to be accepted, if he was my age or younger id have told him to fuck off ! Its ironic that these people who act like that, would have been back in the day most likely battered.

    However, in saying that if someone came up and jut said along the lines of 'good try mate, looking sharp but...' or gave me constructive advice i would take it, as long as they did it respectfully. I guess it comes into the age old ' are we time travellers or do we just like the clothes' for me i like the clothes, part of the fun is getting it right and hunting down for the originals, but i would still wear what the fuck i like i want to !
     


  9. TomMc666

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    Their shoes and boots need a bit of a polish and the trousers need ironing! There were all manner of skinheads onwards from 76, from the downright scruffy to those that were trying to recreate the end of the 60s/early 70s. All dependant I'd say on age around those times as there wasnt one strand to the 'revival'.
     


  10. TomMc666

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    Remember a discussion on another forum about was it trying to be like a sealed knot of skinhead or did it take the fundamentals of the style and do what you wanted with it
     


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    Good post McDermott, and fair questions.

    1) In my area (ie. Greater Manchester) Brown cord Wrangler jackets would have been worn in 1968, whereas the check shirts and polished cherry red Docs were more 1970. No-one was wearing the cord jackets by this time. It's a tiny detail, but to me it just didn't look quite right. (That probably says more about me than anything else!)

    2) No, it doesn't matter! I certainly wasn't having a pop at the lad as I appreciated the effort he'd made. If I had got into conversation with him, it would have been in the manner you suggest. The bloke who spoke to you was obviously not only a c*nt of the highest order, but also clearly didn't know what he was talking about. The long sideburns were a prized possession and sported by the 'big timers' back in 1969/70. - most of us couldn't grow them. Skinhead was a bit of a 'uniform' but as you can see from our recent debate even those of us who were there at the time don't agree on what was and wasn't worn! Mod, on the other hand, was much less uniform, was ever changing and despite the staples of Parka, Levis etc. lots of different styles and mixes would have been worn through the years and lots of experimentation must have gone on.. If it looks good and feels right for you then it's probably right for you!

    The fact that the bloke used the word 'rocker' would indicate that he is an old mod - I certainly wouldn't have known where the first place in Wigan to play Soul Music was, but I never stepped through the doors of a Soul club until 1970. That must mean I don't know what I'm talking about either!
     
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    You are quite right long sideburns were in evidence back in the day.

    Anyway, who cares? Is he in a re-enactment society? Is it like the Sealed Knot? Roundheads and Cavaliers?

    Wear what you want. Mix and match. Some of the stuff from those days I would not wear now. I certainly would not wear my trousers so high; but I am an old git anyway, so I don't care what people say.

    I would always try to avoid the company of arseholes though.
     


  13. McDermott

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    Agreed, i did wonder if when he said 'we never had those' - he might have been referring to mods, He Looked like he could have been a old wheel boy maybe. But i was wearing braces check shirt etc at the time, so i thought otherwise.
    I often 'mix years' quite a bit. I posted a while ago two '3 star' jumpers i have, i wear them with oxford bags and wide parallel's, solatio and 70's shoes (1974-1975 'soulie' look, post-skinhead?) Through to jungle greens, DM's, Fred perry, levi jacket (68' 69). My hair has gone bewteen a grade 1 (even a grade 0 at times when the guard snapped off.. whoops) Through to how it is now, about 1'' or more hair.Usually a Grade 4 suits me well. When i first became a skinhead i thought the style was 'very regimented' however only in the strictest sense of skinhead can that be observed. You Dig deeper and what people wouldnt call skinheads then (eg, later mod or more into 70's, soulies etc). The beret and driving gloves, you talk to your average balding fat bloke skinhead nowadays and they would laugh whereas the 'boots and braces,with jeans' was the exact same thing they have been wearing since they were 14 and got into 'madness' in the 80s (you know, proper skinhead music...[​IMG]). Its a shame that people havent a clue, thats why this forum is valuable to educating others and myself !
     


  14. Gsvs5

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    You are a smart lad by the looks of things McDermott who takes pride in their appearance.It's especially sad when you come up against an older twat who should know better , particularly in a scene that has been built on camaraderie and friendship.I am opinionated,and am disappointed by the lack of care (not just Mods) some people put into the way they dress.For me it's because it was a style that aspired to be cleaner ,sharper and of a superior quality than anything else that was around.I would never vocally criticize anyone,but as this is a sub forum on a style forum I feel it's fair game to express those opinions.At the end of the day ,style is about how you wear what you've got,not what you wear.I think" flyfronts" avatar sums up exactly what I am trying to get at.Four guys from the same era all wearing a combination of looks from different eras,but done so with nonchalance.It's obvious that they care.
    Anyhow the lad who poked you deserves a poke himself ! Sideburns ,though rare,were admired.and most of us were way too juvenile to be able to grow a pair.
    As for Soul,I was into it before it was known a Northern Soul and I couldn't have told you where Wigan was in those days,but I did know Detroit !
    It's a music style I cherished,but it is also full of "one upmanship" followers and bullshitters.Take it with a pinch of salt.
     


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    (Cough) Rubbed in magic marker. (Cough,)

    Could only get away with it in a club, in the dark, mind. :embar:
     


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