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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Spirit of 69, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. yankmod

    yankmod Senior member

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    Gsvs5.Great read.I like the fact you call yourself a Mod to this day,even though you may not be shimmying down the Flamingo.Love,Love Love Ronnie Lane as well. Ivyskin89.Thanks for the response and explanation.The blue 60's Gingham w/ Green line selvedge sounds cool.Price is way out of my limit but,I'm a thrift store junkie and not a skinhead.I do think there are skinheads who will pay for a great shirt.Are you selling these online or in a Brick and Mortar store? Always nice to hear from Darksideoftheforce. Intelligent and perceptive.
     
  2. Sirryacus

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    Gsvs5 were you one of the guys in the thick of things for all those years as in never had a family to tie you down?

    I ask because if so you could give us a better first hand account of the later 70's and 80's areas of interest than the other fellows who had to drop out because of careers and family life and how did you guys with families look upon at such people?

    Did you guys retain friends in such a position who you would still meet up with? What I mean by this is drifting from era to era still in the subculture scenes ie, could have been an one of your old mod or skinhead friends who never had kids and never settled down with any one woman so they were free to spend whatever money they made on whatever they wanted and thus naturally would be going out to see shows a lot more often than you were which would tie them with plenty of emerging subcultures.

    also do you guys think the excessive ridiculousness of the 70's fashions you guys talked about eventually lead to general backlash which manifested itself in the extremly casual styles we are seeing today? If not what do you think is the reasoning for such casual atmosphere nowdays.
     
  3. flyfronted

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    Your seeing Skinhead as a way of life when i reality it was just fashion in 67 - 71 thats why it was vibrant and moved at a pace . Surely Skinhead would be better if it evolved like it did in the late 60s and took turns that suprised .
     
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    Just a thought on another forum i browse ( http://www.80scasualclassics.co.uk/ ) they produce short runs of clobber ... how about you guys hooking into heritage brands such as Ben Sherman / Levis and seeing if they would produce a more authentic / limited run that could be made up and sold via this forum ?
     
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    It did evolve .... for the last 40 years and that's why there's a massive diversity from late 70s two tone fans, NF boneheads with face tatts, scooter rally skinheads, queers in 20 hole steelies and bondage and many many other iterations and cross overs.
    If that means "I'm a skinhead" can be any vague diluted reference to any part of any skinhead from the last 46 years, it becomes very meaningless.... which in a way, it probably is.
     
  6. Bob the Badger

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    This site has exploded with lots of interesting posts recently. I don't mind if it goes slightly off topic at times because it sometimes sparks other useful bits of information that is relevent.
    I lived near a bowling alley in the mid sixties and we used it like a youth club/coffee bar and played a bit of ten pin. I knew Mods that wore the bowling shoes in the same way that trainers are worn today. You could hire the bowling shoes and risk a foot infection but some of us bought the bowling shoes and we wore them away from the bowling alley.
    In the mid '70's some of my younger mates started wearing bowling shirts but I stuck to the BD's.
     
  7. Bob the Badger

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    I started wearing roll necks in 1970. Having bought stuff at the Squire shop I started shopping at the Village Gate along Oxford Street and there I bought roll necks that were on the thin side to begin with but got chunkier in 71/72. I went away to college in 1972 and used a local launderette for my washing. I managed to shrink all my Roll necks in the wash and had to bin them. I wasn't too upset as one jumper was salmon pink and others were pastel shades.I still have three thin roll necks made in UK and bought from M&S in the 1990's.
     
  8. Bob the Badger

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    I still can't remember my first trainers but they might have been Gola. I did buy Reeboks quite early on when the logo had the Union flag. I was never a big Adidas fan (although photos show I did wear them) as I preferred Puma and I always saw these as rival brands with their own loyal followers.

    The Dunlop Green Flash I wore were for knocking about in, they didn't cost much and I never considered them cool or trendy, just practical. I have a photo of me and a girlfriend both wearing them. I was also wearing light brown Levi cords at the time.
    I would never wear trainers in the street today as there are so many better options. I wear New Balance shoes for running because they suit my running style and they are still made in UK/USA, which I like.

    I have just remembered that pre skinhead there was a craze for baseball boots. Knock off copies of Converse all stars sold in local shops. We all had them one Summer, pre Scholls and mocassins.
     
  9. Bob the Badger

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    In 1976 I worked for a Civil Engineering Consultants office in West London. At that time we wore suits and ties, even in Summer. One partner was an Aussie and he invited over 1/2 dozen young Aussie Grads.When it got hot they all turned up for work in shorts despite there being an unwritten dress code. We gave them a few wolf whistles but they got away with it because it was natural to them. No Brits copied them however but we did take our jackets off and rolled up our sleeves to work.
     
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    Hi Brownie - shown on BBC4 last night:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...ling_was_Golden_Grapples_Grunts_and_Grannies/

    Maybe you could spot someone you know?

    :satisfied:
     
  11. yankmod

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    Thanks for the answer and explanation Bob the Badger.About 10 years ago Italian Bowling shoes were the "Trend" in Nyc for a season.Everyone and their Maid had them.New York is that way with trends.They explode and last for a short time.The "News Boy" cap was also big for a season as well.Kinda pathetic really(NYC I mean)
     
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    flyfronted.I agree with your last two posts,i try to use some suedehead in my style but not all of it,things move on or stagnate,IMO.I am sure i have seen another thread on this forum where people had gone to a shoe firm ( Trickers i think )and had shoes made,there was a group price.I wonder if Loake would make up a dozen pairs of Royals in decent leather ?
     
  13. Clouseau

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    I red somewhere than on another forum, members had made up Hawkins Astronauts boots replicas by Solovair.
    it apparently worked well for Solovair who now produce Astros for Mikkel Rude, and under their own brand as "Solovair Hawkins".
     
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  14. cerneabbas

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    Bob the Badger.I dont know if you know about the rivalry between Adidas and Puma,how it started and the restrictions put on their work forces ? its quite an interesting story IMO.Berwick 1707 have got some boots on their website that i think are like the officers boots you mentioned in past posts.
     
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    Maybe that's why there was a reluctance to accept the labels by us as it evolved from Mods and out again quite quickly? How did you evolve into Skinhead Buttons? I agree with most of what you say except that you Mohican mate.IMO he took something from a current trend that clearly would never work within the self contained dicipline of what I would consider in Mod taste.Trousers may get slightly longer or shorter but I would always wear the appropriate length depending on the cut of them and style of the shoes or boots I was pairing them with.
    Some might say someone like me "just wants their cake" so to speak? I certainly do,but i believe I have the self constraint and knowledge when enough is enough to not become a victim or caricature.I find it awkward when people ask questions like "Is it alright to wear ? ".Usually the answer should be "No fucking way ! "
    Did you see that thing on the telly about the Plumber from The Elephant & Castle who built his empire and become very wealthy? Clearly he had gripped on to his past a little too hard and used too much hair dye to be believable anymore.It also begs the question of the ethos being the bigger part of it all in the first place?
    Who's really the Mod here,Steve McQueen or Weller.One never needed to let go and one doesn't know when to.
    I think by now it is universally accepted that the Faces were his band,and probably the reason behind Rod avoiding any reunion over the years.
     
  17. Gsvs5

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    Ha,ha..
    Bye the early to Mid 70's i was wearing whatever I wanted,shopping everywhere from Kensington Market to Chelsea Girl (That raised a few eyebrows in the changing rooms!)
    Come '76 I had to tone things down due to work really.I spent the next seven or eight years constantly traveling the world,so I was fortunate enough to get pretty much whatever I wanted,either off the peg or have it made.I was still using thrift stores though and I would probably say that the way i dressed in the late sixties heavily influenced my taste and style from then on.This came down to things that are quite common in off the peg stuff nowadays,like working button holes on your jacket sleeves,coloured linings etc.I was generally only buying Alan McAfee and Crocket & Jones which were a step up from any shoes I had in previous incarnation.Instead of lambswool,I was buying Cashmere which was a lot more expensive that it is today.
    Punk arrived and I detested it.New Romantics remain the Pimple on the Arse of men in Britain,and the Blitz era only hid the ugliest birds behind even more make up.So I was left to cherry pick from the influences of my past and the likes of Scott Crolla ,Paul Smith,Ferry and Jermyn St with subtle changes ever since.This has to be the case for many of us now nearer sixty than sixteen,or some of the retail dinosaurs that some frequent would have surely closed long ago
    I played the field for as long as could and luckily met the right bird at the right time,in my 40's,so yeah I never had any thing to hold me back as it were.
     
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  18. cerneabbas

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    Clouseau.I think that its a good idea to get an old type of shoes or boots made again now,i wonder if it would be possible to get them made at a reasonable cost though ?.Maybe some of those Adidas training shoes that the 60s Mods used to wear.
     
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  19. Clouseau

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    Cerneabbas. i guess it depends of the company. i Doubt a big shoemaker like Loake (or else) would do short runs of an old type of shoe at all. Not interesting for them or maybe at a high price. on the other hand, a smaller company could be interested. But there are two other problems. First you have to find a dozen of blokes interested by the same shoe model. Second, and this is personal, i do not like to order shoes on Internet. I prefer to try them on, as sizes varies from a make to another.
     
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  20. cerneabbas

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    Clouseau,Yes it is true that you should try shoes on,i have already got two pairs of Loakes in a size 10 so that would be ok ( usually ),with the Royals they still make them, so would it be a problem for them to use a better quality leather ?.Yes i think it would be a problem to find enough people who would want to buy the shoes.
     

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