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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Spirit of 69, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. Gsvs5

    Gsvs5 Senior member

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    Brylcreem !..........well a similar greasy product[​IMG]
     
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    Mr.Knightley.I Don't own a tie.Haven't worn one in 30 yrs.I'm superstitious about it.I do think some gents in Bow ties look pretty cool though.Just wanted to commend you on that choice.It takes bravery as well I think to wear a Bow Tie.
     
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    [​IMG]

    These are very nice split toe Cheaney's (for Alan McAfee nicked from Ebay)
     
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    On the subject of shoes.....

    1. Were Oxfords worn in other parts of the country 1969/71? Don't recall it being mentioned anywhere.
    2. In 1972 there was a brief fad about wearing 'Moccasins' around Manchester. Did this happen anywhere else?

    Although I wore both at the time, the former I considered to be skinhead wear, the latter I didn't (pretty much on the tail end of suedehead by us - just as it was all starting to go pear shaped)
     
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    Hi RB, I'm assuming by Oxford, you mean this style, with a toe cap?
    The terminology often gets mixed up with gibsons, smooth caps, oxfords, long wings, Royals, gun boats etc, even with the manufacturers.
    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    I've got a pair by Grenson, I've had since '89. Not got a picture to hand though.
     
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    Man-of-Mystery Senior member

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    'Moccasins' (which was what we called loafers, when we didn't know any better) 67/68 around Blackpool
     
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    Dang I was hoping you were waltzing around in Minnetonkas.

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    "Moccasin", or "Mocassin" is an amerindian word in origin.
    It describes (in France) a penny loafer.
     
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    I know you all know about penny loafers. But these are made by JM Weston, a very famous french brand.
    Very sturdy, exists in a variety of colors and leathers. I had some in brown suede i kept 20 years. Alas they became very expensive.
     
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    http://loomstate.blogspot.com/2012/01/lotus-veldtschoen-guaranteed-waterproof.html

    Here is a link to a great Blog predominantly about Denim by one of the most knowledgable people out there.This posting talks of the Lotus Shoe Co. which was based in my home town at the time .Maybe due to that fact a few of the lads wore Veldtschoen shoes as an alternative to Royals at the time.Less common than the RAF surplus Officer Dress shoes worn by many,they were one of the few shoes out there with very thick soles and built solid as a rock.They were also the most expensive new shoes available in town at the time.
    Interesting to you Buttons as it talks of "Used" prices for the boots and RL in London.
    Furthermore he dispels the Urban Legend of the Japanese buying up Levis old Looms for Denim production elsewhere in his Blog.Good reading
     
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    Yes Buttons, that's exactly what I meant. (the style of the brown ones, though we mostly wore black)

    The moccasins I referred to though were lace ups - not 'loafers' (much more like the 'Cheaneys' photo posted by Gsvs5)
     
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    I've got a pair of Church's like that I need to get around to selling.
     
  14. Mr Knightley

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    I must admit I don't wear a bow tie that often - it does take courage these days!

    Even the tie is becoming an endangered species - the recent G8 summit seemed to put another nail in the coffin. It is sad because a man gets very few opportunities to wear a piece of coloured silk.
     
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    Gsvs5 thanks for sharing that link - great blog as you say. Lotus made some wonderful loafers in the early 80s available at Woodhouse in London. They reflected that rugged style pictured in the blog with a chunky construction and often a matt, slightly waxy finish. Anyone remember them?
     
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    Of course they are not both Oxfords (using the English definition). The brown one, with its 'closed' lacing, is where the black pair are in a Derby style. While we wore Derbies in the late 60s (Royals included of course) we did not wear Oxfords on a regular basis. The latter were seen as too smooth.

    http://menandstyle.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/the-difference-between-oxford-and-derby.html

    I gather our American cousins call the Derby a Blucher and the Oxford an Oxford Bal(moral)?
     
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    Oops, mis post (accidentally hit reply button too soon). Was about to say have had several pairs of Oxfords over last 20-odd years, made by Church's and Grenson amongst others. In fact, wearing a pair today.

    2. Also remember moccasins if they were lace-ups you're referring to roytonboy. Seem to remember Bata selling most popular version. Didn't care for them myself and somehow always associate them with Rupert trousers - but as you said they were at suede head tail-end when all going pear-shaped.
     
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    elwood, I hadnt heard of John Smedley before reading this thread,i think that they look very tidy,i have some similar ones by Hugo Boss in various colours,the logo is very discreet just the name embroidered in the same coloured thread as the shirt.I also have Hanes long sleeve polos which are a plain cotton pique polo in a variety of colours about £12 on e bay.
     
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    roytonboy, If its Oxfords with a toe cap that you mean then yes i used to wear them,i have seen some similar on e bay recently Sanders officers shoes.
    Were the lace up moccasins leather with a rubber sole ? if so we wore them in Bristol,we called them "bovver moccs", Pressure_drop has mentioned them.
    I was reading your article for your local rag and you mention the Ben Sherman button downs in black,navy and red..I had a navy one for christmas that year, 1970 ? it was a nice shirt very thin/fine material,i think that the red one had white buttons,the navy shirt navy buttons,not sure about the black but i wish i could get one now.
     

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