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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Spirit of 69, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. Man-of-Mystery

    Man-of-Mystery Senior member

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    Yeah, I know - I put it there! But now I come to think about it, when Jason drew that I think we were still debating what the title would be.
     
  2. elwood

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    MoM, in answer to your question, I also thought "Walk Proud" was the title. For what it's worth, I think "Walk Proud" has a bit more immediacy and impact than "Walking Proud" - but only my opinion.
     
  3. elwood

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    Gsvs5, could your tassel loafers c.1971 have been Timpsons? I've posted before about the "Royals Collection" they sold in that period - tassel loafers with a good thick sole and a horizontal heel seam were part of that range. They were available in black and oxblood. Very nice shoe as I recall. Not as commonly seen round my way as the longwing brogue in the range.
     
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    No ,I would have remembered if they were part of the Royal's range as my mates all had the Brogues and I didn't !
     
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    Gsvs5, could you're 1971 tassel loafers could have been those? (Vintage Loake salisbury)


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  6. Gsvs5

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    Very similar ,but mine had a more pointed/chisel toe,as opposed to the almond/round shape.They were different to most of the ones being worn,but were the only ones I could find in my size at that time that were decent quality with a leather sole etc.
    Pretty much the same as these but with a tassle.




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  7. yankmod

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    M.O.M.I agree with elwood. "Walk Proud" Reads better( what I mean by reads better is it sounds better,two quick syllables) Obviously you do what you like it's your Work.TA
     
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    Similar to the first pair of loafers i owned around 79/80, they weren't what i was after tbh, my favourites having a rounder toe with basketweave to the vamp, never owned a pair, always nice to have something on the wanted list
     
  9. Man-of-Mystery

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    Ours rather than mine, but I think I see the consensus here. Thanks everyone.
     
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    The reason why I suggested "Walking Proud",in the first place,was because it was a Reggae Tune so connected to us.Secondly there was something that had "Walk Proud" on it,that had the stereotype Skinhead image on it.I thought with the Book,we are showing the other side to what the Media projected.
     
  11. cerneabbas

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    Basset, I dont know if your mate is still after those boots ,but if you look on e;bay in mens shoes there are some of the Sanders ones £85 plus postage,theres only a few sizes.You once mentioned an Italian tailor on here ( i think ) was he in or near Bristol and would you recommend him? i want to get a jacket and maybe some trousers made.
     
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    Well lads, its only my opinion and its not my book, but I'm not over keen on the title. It depends on a lot of things but partly on who you want to sell the book to. If its just people on this site, then it could be anything as they'll all buy it anyway. If its out for public consumption, it needs to grab your attention (hopefully without being too tacky or overstated) whether you're a skinhead, ex skinhead or just someone interested in style, fashion or youth culture. Walking Proud - whilst I get the reggae connection (and its always nice to have a subtle undertone for those in the know), most people won't get it, so Walking Proud or Walk Proud are pretty equal. But whilst its documenting the transition from Mod, through skinhead and out the other side, its focus is on style (from what I can gather, and largely why I carry on reading it every day and get involved). "Walk Proud" doesn't give any clues to the subject matter (not without a sub-title, anyway). If I saw a book called Walk Proud, apart from giving it no more than half a second's attention, if I was going to consider it a bit further, I'd think it was about a bloke who had his leg blew off in the war but in the face of diversity went on to walk 10 marathons for charity. Or maybe the details behind the collaboration between Honda and Nasa to make the first robot that walked on two legs like a human. Or the trials and tribulations of a closet homosexual who lived in the rough end of 60s Soho. Maybe the tail of a cartoon duck who despite his broken wing and lots of piss taking off his duck mates, managed to keep his bill up around the ponds of Berkshire. I know that's all nonsense, but ye get what I mean. And if I saw that red white and blue image above, I'd think it was yet another skinhead book, with lot of pictures of lads in awful jeans and rotten tattoos, posing with bull dogs and union flags and contributions from ex revival skinheads who put their hand over their chest and say "I'll always be a skinhead at heart" when really their a fat middle aged bloke with a bald head and Samba plimsolls who used to like Madness. If you just want to attract lots of skinhead types and sell a few books, call it "Boss Skinheads '69 A way of Life" (although personally I'd die of shame) but in loving memory of the last 500 pages of informative chit chat, I believe it deserves more respect. I know its easy to criticize from the wings. "So why don't you suggest something better one then?", I hear you cry .... So far, I haven't got the ideal title, cos its not that obvious. If one springs to mind, I'll let you know so you can constructively slag it off. In the mean time, I'm sure there's loads of work to do, which means loads more time to come up with a title. Buttons
     
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    browniecj and buttons make some good arguments.I agree with buttons Re:The title being half the marketing of the book.A good title will sell itself.And there are the stereotypes to avoid as well.I think the title will work itself out.Gotta have faith in the creative process.Remember the accidents and unexpected is the fun of "creating".I say ''your" book M.O.M.cause your the cat doin the work.I'm still pushing for a giant coffee table book cause the photos would look great.TA
     
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    in East London we used to call them Skeletons
     
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    in East London we used to call them Skeletons
     
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    A few book names(not to step on any toes, I am a newer contributor and not a main face on here, just food for thought):

    "A Backstreet View"
    "When the Sword Was Mightier Than the Pen"
    "(Keep It) Neat and Tidy"
     
  19. Basset

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    Thanks i will tip him off.
    As for tailoring in Bristol im at a loss to recomend anyone to you, the Italian bloke i mentioned has made some nice suits for mates in the past, but his last effort was rubbish in all honesty, in fairness he is knocking on a bit, i used to drive past his shop everyday last year for a couple of months as i was working that way and it was always shut, pardon the pun but i thought he'd pegged it.

    If you want the address i'll pm it to you, but not out of recomendation, more you pays yer money and takes yer chance
     
  20. cerneabbas

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    Basset, Thanks for the info,its ok i will hang on and find another tailor. I find it a bit depressing that when i was younger there was a lot of clothes/shoes that i wanted but couldnt afford,then you go through the mortgage/family years (not much spare cash) then when you get to my age and have a bit of disposable income the things that you want are not available.I went into Bristol on saturday the shops were full of rubbish,the only items that i liked were some button down shirts in M and S,and a Jasper Conran "harrington" in Debenhams...they didnt have one in large,not a problem i think ,i will order one online haha all sizes out of stock.So a few hours wasted and i had to pay for car parking!!.I expect some people on here might ask why the Jasper Conran "harrington" theres loads of cheaper ones available,i like it because it has a plain lining not tartan (heresy i know) i liked the navy colour and it seemed well made.
     

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