Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Spirit of 69, Nov 19, 2008.
Looks a smart Fella.Danny Dyer
From what I can gather about Danny Dyer, he's a soft as shit actor who knows nothing about skinheads and footy hooligans but cos he once played a tough guy in a film, he got more work in the same field. Same as the bald bloke out of Eastenders who did a series about gang fighting etc. Dyer's too much of a OTT cockney geezer for my liking. And from the cockneys I've spoken to, they all hate him for being a pretenteous arse. Might be a canny lad in real life but his TV persona isn't taken at all seriously.
Still, nice bit of footage on the football special and always nice to see Eccles' lot in the away end. Is it just me or does he get younger every time you watch it?!
Being a Yank i don't know the(supposed)tabloid fodder Dyer.I caught him in Football Factories.One of his tv shows he addmits to being a soft actor(not really hard)The thing I thought new about this footage was the black and white clip of the skin being interviewed on the train(seen an excerpted still) Learned a few things about DM's here. Yooz from the Isles may have seen it.
He has the Credentials-born in Canning Town,his Old Man was a local "Face".But he comes across as a Prat(in real Life he maybe different).
Eccles was known(in London) so the images of him "organising" his mob,in the "Away" end probably was against "out of town! Boys.Its funny,you always knew who to watch out for-whether at Football or in a Ruck.They were the main "Boys",they were the ones to go for etc.
When the "Specials" rolled in,that was the main Mob.Why they had to smash the Trains up, was always strange to me.It meant,you bought your Tickets then have the Train taken away from you(and you were stranded)-or it was draughty etc.,on the way back.The I.C.F.started the travelling by normal Trains in incognito some time later.This followed a Tradition of arriving at your opponents Ground earlier,than the main Lot without any Colours showing.I can only speak from my experiences of going to Chelsea.When West Ham were playing there(Chelsea and Millwall were our main rivals,followed by Arsenal).,we used to arrive in Fulham early.We would find a back-street Pub and settle down for a Drink.Once I got asked if I was West Ham-"Nah! Mate,don`t watch Football".There was a dozen of us in there.There was always fighting at Parsons Green or,if the Shed were coming the other way-Mile End.Lasttye could possibly back me up on this.When the Crowd started going in,we would mingle(still without showing Colours)and walk in.This happened in most of the London Clubs.Whilst the Game was in progress you would see the Crowd part and you knew.This is why Eccles and others were known-because you would be standing in their End and watching.I did this a couple of times.Other times I went in because a Mate wanted to watch the Match( and the "Irons" were not at Home).Never got "sussed".By `69 I had enough.
Well hello all.
I have just managed to all the way through the thread (it takes some time).
I 'm a long time skinhead (I have been since I was 13, I'm 38 now), I have enjoyed the read & hope to contribute.
Correct the old Russell Street shop, now based in Chiltern Street http://www.johnsimons.co.uk/
Do you still go there Kingstonian?
Does anyone know the origin of sowing a Levi label on the front of your Levi jacket?
Thought it was Kingstonian - it was where I bought my Baracuta a few years back - navy blue, same as the one Dyer tried on, although mine is a tad larger than his
I would guess about `68/`69,in the North.Skinheads in the London Area never wore their Jackets like that-or I never saw anybody with them on(only when someone like Man.Utd etc., came to West Ham).Maybe Ed or someone could tell us more.
I saw one or two people doing this in Blackpool in early 1968. I never saw it in London, so yes, it strikes me as a Northern thing too.
Yes, it did happen up here in whippet and clog land.
I had a Levi denim - trucker - jacket back in the day (1969-70), and would wear it with Sta-prest but never jeans. That would have been too denim-y. for my taste.
Lads would sew their Wrangler back pocket patches on jackets, too - but not me.
I had a couple of pairs (Wranglers) but never a Wrangler denim jacket - they seemed a bit too 'johnny-come-lately' for me.
I was always happier in pants, as opposed to jeans. I'm still like that, though I can, fatness permitting, squeeze into a pair of Levis or Lee Ryders.
As a side issue: BBC 4, Tuesday nights, 8.30, are runnning a 'never seen on TV' series made by Rank, featuring all sorts of things from the very late 50s through the 60s.
It may be worth catching it for historic interest.
Apologies to the overseas folks, I don't think you can receive this.
The only label on our Levi jackets in late 60s was the red tag. Never saw any thing else sewn on. I agree with Eds response we only wore Levi jean jackets with Levi Sta Prest or jungle greens - never with jeans otherwise you would look like the Dick Emery character!!
Definitely worn in the West country, sometimes (sadly) words would be written on it in felt tip pen e.g. SKINS or name of football 'end' - in our instance 'TOTE'.
Separate names with a comma.