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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Spirit of 69, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. flyfronted

    flyfronted Senior member

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    Early 70s calling a Black kid a Nigger would have got you a slap .. i had plenty of well dressed black pals and never used that word around em .
     
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    The word PAKI is not racist in itself but it was a term invented by racists so it became racist . If grown men think calling Chinese people Chinkys is ok then they are idiots .
     
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    Brits is an abbreviation the same as Paki was and Chink is.So why is ok for People to call us that Name but it is offensive to call the other two?As with the word Nigger,Whites cannot call them that,but the,Black Youth can call themselves Niggaz,and it is looked upon as "Street Cred".I was told off for calling an American a Yank(on another Forum)but there have been Film Titles with that word in it.I think People have become oversensitive.We older one had Fathers who fought for this Country,for Democracy-now we have Fascists telling us what to think and do.
     
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    To me there is no difference between a Right Wing Nazi and a Left Wing Marxist-yet one is demonised and one is hero worshipped.Do not forget,the Communists killed more Jews over the years(but so-called intellectuals ignore that small fact).
     
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    I don't like the term Yank because quite frankly I'm not from the eastern seaboard aka New England and none of my ancestors have lived there since the 1700's.
     
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    Most Black people hate the fact that hip hop kids use the Nigger word but it was appropriated as a way of taking the hate out of it . If someone tells you ( a grown man ) that the words Paki or Nigger are wrong it does not make them a Facist ... just grown up . The idea middle aged men would even have such a discussion is bizzare ( i can understand 15 - 17 year old boneheads with such childish views ) . Even more bizzare that they are in a culture that celebrates Black music and Black fashion.
     
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    Just to get off the politics. Think I may of posted this a few hundred pages ago on here...the cutting was kindly donated by Della a original skinhead girl.
    Willesden is a area next to Kilburn...with a overlap..as some Kilburn and Willesden lads went to the same schools....The Willesden had a large mob of hard lads..who often caused havoc around NW London.
    Just to add both those Pubs that those lads drank in was balldozed years ago...one other thing worth mentioning Trogan records had their main offices across the road in Neasden Lane.:)

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    Are you saying I have childish views flyfronted,because I have just put a query about the Names.The one thing that is not discussed properly in this Country is Immigration etc.Why,because the People who call all the isms out are not mature enough,to talk about it.I did not say I call Blacks "Niggers" just asked the Question why.they call it themselves.The thing is "Boneheads" belong to the Right and the Left-because they have been indoctrinated with the Propoganda(from either side).They are then used by People who have not got the Guts to fight the Battles for themselves.It is alright to split the "Working Class".As I said this was a Democracy,and in it People were allowed to speak and ask Questions-I do not like what some People say or write but that is their Right.So lets not start calling People Names eh?
     
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    Now this is interesting.Is it only the Eastern Seeboard that are called Yanks?When you see Titles came out such as "The Yanks Are Coming" or "The Yank" etc.do ,you boycott them?As I have said we are called Brits or as your fellow Countrymen, call us "Limeys".:)
     
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    My moms side of the Family is Welsh and Scottish.Been in New England since the Mayflower.So I am a Yank.I don't mind the term.I do mind when southerners call me a Yankee and talk shit about the Civil War.Rediculous.Paki is short hand and made racsist by racsists using it that way.Chinc is definitely a derogatory term for Chinese.
     
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    Yes, but do we know what other People call us? :)A few years ago,"Ethnic Minorities" was encouraged to mean non British.Now it is considered Racist by the so called Intellectuals.Soon,to call this group of Countries the United Kingdom,will be deemed Racist.
     
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    And I have Irish,Scottish and Gypsy Blood mixed in my Veins- so sort that one out :D
     
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    The term Yankee (sometimes shortened to Yank) has several interrelated meanings, all referring to people from the United States. Within the US it can refer to people originating in the northeastern US, or still more narrowly New England, where application of the term is largely further restricted to the descendants of colonial English settlers in the region. Outside the US it is used to refer to people from the US in general.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yankee
     
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    i know what people from other countries call germans... ;)
    hunns, fritz, heinie, krauts, boche, squareheads, etc...
    the list will be to long, so feel free to check this page, hahaha... -->
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terms_used_for_Germans
     
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    I'm also half Cuban(my dad)so I was classified a minority from the get go.I'm proud to be an american mutt.The Mutts shall inherit the earth(gypsy's too browniecj) And the Germans are alright with me.
     
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    I've seen the line drawing of this photo in the famous newspaper article, also the same couple without their sheepskins, but we must of had this one? Apologies if we have.

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    10th October 1969


    White City Youth Club, London, 1968

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    The top one looks familiar, but as you've said.... never seen the bottom two, great pics Bunty
     
  18. Darksideoftheforce

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    Just to add my opinion. Been awhile since I've been here. Really surprised how race and politics got mixed up in this otherwise informative discussion board about sartorial sense.

    Its all a matter of context and the history behind those terms. "Paki" "Chink" "Nigger" "Jap" or "Yid" were historically used for derogatory purposes, whereas "Yank" or "Brit" didn't have the same connotation and they don't provoke the same emotions of lynchings, or slavery (especially for blacks when "nigger" is used) because the way I see it the word "Brit" was often used as a term of endearment or an abbreviated word for British, nothing more. There are racial and derogatory terms for White people in general, but Brit or Yank is not one of them. "Limey" could be a derogatory term depending on context, but I believe that term originally was a nickname for British sailors. In America white people invented all sorts of derogatory terms for other white people. "Mick" and "Polak"were all offensive terms as a result of American nativist sentiments against Irish and Polish mmigrants in the 19th and early 20th centuries.
     
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    I don't really take too much offense, for everyone calling me Yank I'll fire back with Brit or Limey and its usually all in good fun, but I honestly don't think the term applies to me, and remember there is The Limey with the great Terence Stamp, hell I still call the netherlands Holland and if your from England don't tell me UK people that doesn't tell me where you are from very well.
     
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    skinheads in the evening press - may 1972 (!!!!!)
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