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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Spirit of 69, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. Gsvs5

    Gsvs5 Senior member

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    I didn't know that,but it led me to reading about it on soul source,which in turn led me to this post on there:

    "Did you ever go into a All- night club called the La Duce? it was a all night coffee bar that you paid 5/- to get in, only to find a juke bow 3 brasses and Soho night birds, We went in one night and there were 4 flash skinheads in there, the juke box had great records on it BANG BANG LULU WET DREAM, Any way there was about 6 of us, one bloke told me he was from Kilburn, i asked him if he knew 3 fFriendsmine who were in the Wilsdon whites? he said no and he was a member of the HENDON mafia, a small firm, he said his name was Paddy O Brian, Well thats fits in with Kilburn but not with Hendon, any way after half an hour the youngest bloke with us Paul got upset because one of them started to chat him up, he was only 16, and this was 1969, it turned out that ttheLa Duce was a GAY hangout, a fight broke out and could these bloke fight as people were leaving i had to fight on me bike going up stairs, then this O Brian got a cut throat out and swiped it at my boat, i put my arm up and ssteppedhim cutting m, when i got out on the street the razor had cut through my sheepskin, suit jacket sleeve and striped me on my right arm?
    just one of me SOHO adadventuresowever, O Brian and his mate, are in some skinhead fanzines that come out in the OI! PERIOD AND THTHE PICTURESRE ICONIC, i will dig them out as there is a twist to my tale??
    However i raised that incident as it included the same people in this news paper article from 69.this should bring a smile to CHICHIEFYas there are a couple of BLETSOE
    boys in the article?? [​IMG] by the way if you aain'tspent a night in WEST END CENTRAL you have not lived "

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    So much for the friendliness and cameraderie of the Soul scene eh!
     
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  2. bunty

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    Just outside North London -

    Collarless 'Union' shirts - No.

    Grandad vests -No.

    Army Greens - Yes, twice - '68 ish and again later '71.

    Donkey Jackets - Yes, briefly '68. As said, work-wear that was a fad on the terraces.

    Thick cardies - No, only the 'thin' ones. Worn right through the '60s, from the earlier Mod days onwards. As were V-neck jumpers/knitted long sleeved polo shirts.

    Trilbies - Yes, 'casually' with jeans etc. Pork pies were worn earlier.

    A local quirk - Levis were always worn high but without turn ups* Turn ups were adopted later on.

    *Another Mod leftover, as was the nonchalant use of 'bennies' at weekends :D
     
  3. Lasttye

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    I was a member of the Kilburn...and have wrote a fair bit about our mob and our mates in the Hendon mob on here...cant remember a Paddy O Brian ...Yes Hendon was a small mob most of them lived on or around Sturgess avenue. We became mates with the Hendon after they approached us for help against the Burnt Oak.. The Kilburn and Hendon piled up to Watling Ave in Burnt Oak and rioted... 36 of our lot got nicked and it was all over the National news.. they also did a large article about NW London Gangs and the press gave us all Gang names..hence Kilburn Aggro Mob, Hendon Mafia, Burnt Oak Mob and The Willesden Whites..all these names was never used by us....Regarding the Willesden...I went to school with most of them...in fact one of the main lads daughter came on this thread asking about her late Dad ...and a photo from here was dug out for her. Regarding the West End none of us ever ventured down there well not in 69 thats for sure....maybe the blokes you met was older lads? who strayed down there,:)
     
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    Just to add Their was two brothers in the Hendon Pat and Dave ..Pat was older. Their name was not O Brian....Both was very well known in the Hendon.

    Their was other little gangs that hung around with us Kilburn and Hendon...Lads from Cricklewood, Swiss Cottage, Wembley, Maida Vale.... plus I had mates from Bermondsey and New Cross that came over to our manor..even a little mob from Wolverhampton. that we met through going to football with Chelsea.
     
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  5. Gsvs5

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    Roy, just to clarify - That post had nothing to do with me.it was by another bloke from another forum (soul source)I posted it because I know bit of your history with Kilburn,and thought it would be of interest to you.The bloke also openly admits to being a serious drug user/dealer back then,so take from that what you will.
     
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  6. Gsvs5

    Gsvs5 Senior member

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    Even the birds had them McDermott...Market Harborough 1968-9

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    Lasttye.Great recollection.Great info for the book.As a songwriter,I love the place names.Swiss Cottage I hadn't heard.........Gsvs5 "Even the birds had them" Classic man.TA
     
  8. Man-of-Mystery

    Man-of-Mystery Senior member

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    Indeed not, mate - far from it!
     
  9. Man-of-Mystery

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    Does anyone have a higher definition pic of that 'Young skinhead beaten up' article?
     
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    Man-of-Mystery Senior member

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    We did have a couple of people independently working on cover art, but I seem to have lost touch with them. It's something I'm looking into.
     
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    Man-of-Mystery Senior member

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    Thank you for the compliment, but no way - it's not a book about me.

    I learned a long time ago not to be a flash git. :)
     
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    Man-of-Mystery Senior member

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    Are you clappin' for a slappin', pal? ;) :D
     
  13. Ed Vaughan

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    Certainly not, I'm a lover, not a fighter. (And have a big yellow line down my spine.) :nodding:
     
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    The City scarf came in originally in season 1967-68, when City adopted the maroon tops to the socks. Very cutting edge at the time as very few clubs had 3 colours in their scarves - Leeds and, oddly, Oldham Athletic were the only 2 others I know of. Most other fans still had the old blue and white or red and white. Yet another reason why supporting City was the hieght of style at the time! Funnily enough the 'traditional' scarves have made a big comeback nationwide in the last three years. I wonder why......... Oh, yes, Roberto Mancini........ so some things never change......
     
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    I had one (in red and black) in season 1971/72. I wore it with my crombie - very suedehead. It was very small and worn on the back of the head like a scull-cap. Some Jewish lads at City wore tiny ones held in place with a hair grip!
     
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    Gsvs5 Thanks for clarifying that.... My fault as i read it wrong..also i did think you being Twelve in 69 hanging around West End night clubs was a bit wacky....we never went down the place full of hippies and druggies...the West End back then was a decadent seedy place.:)
     
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    Thats like saying all 60s skinheads were smart. But we all know they wern't, far from it.
     
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    He apparantly coined the term Northern Soul in the press. But the tunes he talks about were played a good couple of years before further south than he claims.
     
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    True but i in 68 / 69 i was to young to be a well dressed Skinhead by 78 / 79 when the Boneheads turned up to my trained eyes they looked all wrong . More like Punks than Skinheads - hair far to short , trousers far to high and DM's touching there knees and jeans so tight it looked homoerotic . Also looking at the pics of the sorts on here 67 -71 they all look really ladylike and sharp .. the daft birds with dyed crops and blokes clobber of the revival era were a turn off .. only my opinion of course
     
  20. Mr Knightley

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    And one I share!

    I think it is true that the really well-dressed skinheads of 1968/70 were absolutely immaculate by any standard. A real wonder to behold.

    Of course, and I have said this before, when you saw a large group of skins together, perhaps at Southend on a Bank Holiday, the overall impression was often one of scruffiness - at times like that I wondered if I belonged.

    However, the original look was somehow 'softer' than the punk-inspired revival in 1979. By then I was in my mid 20s and simply didn't recognise them as skinheads. They really only had the short hair in common and through most of the period 1968/70 hair was not that short anyway.

    The point you make about the girls is very apt. Look at the pictures Bunty has posted of his brother and girlfriend and see just how ladylike and sweet she is. True style – understated and achieved without body piercings or even obvious jewellery...

    The other point I must make, and I know it is unpopular here, is that a modern, short-lived youth style from the late 1960s cannot really provide an exact blueprint for later generations. What it can do IMO is provide a point of reference, a kind of yardstick against which you can assess and re-assess your future fashion choices.
     

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