Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Spirit of 69, Nov 19, 2008.
Don't stop reading, though!
Colin... tell me you haven't... please!
John, I think there are only so many times you can go round a subject. Much of what we are doing now is, I believe, socially based. We're keeping in touch whilst chatting about things which are broadly about the subject. I think it's inevitable. There might be a bit of a drop off in 'purity' but the thread is kept live.
Anyhow, if there is something within the 'pure' subject of this thread you want to talk about, go ahead and talk about it, and we'll all join in. Not dumping on you, but I'm having that damn problem with my subscription to the thread - it says it's live but it doesn't function - so I can't keep on top of things. If I can think of something new from 68/69 I'll drop it in.
I knew the world was doomed when I saw Michael Vaughan wearing one at a Test Match, Ed. I think they've all had one of those space earwigs stuck down their ears...
That's a fair point and it would be a shame for us all to lose touch.
No, that wasn't aimed at you: just a general carp about the conversation on the thread getting diluted. I know you're only 38, but no need to have a tantrum.......
I didn`t think you were having a pop at me personally Buttons,I didn`t plan to come across as having a go either(I posted that just after getting home from a 12 hour night shift,so maybe a bit rubbed off on me..).I totally agree with the comments about some only wearing gear on occasions-i.e:fancy dress.I know of a few people in the scene that really do wear totally normal gear most of the time and then dust down there best skinhead type clobber(mostly cheap,ill fitting,tacky stuff-think Warrior/Merc/Relco,etc but they think they look good) for a reggae do then its goes back into storage after! Sad as fuck as far as i`m concerned,if you are going to be part of this lifestyle then do it all the time or not at all.It sort of reminds me of tales of Jimmy Pursey from Sham 69 turning up to play gigs in 1977/78 in baseball boots,changing into DM`s to go on stage and then back into Baseball boots after.
I thought my relevation of wearing Adidas Sambas every once in a while might bring on comments but I`m just being honest and on the other skinhead forum I go on(UK Skinheads),just about all the skinheads on there have admitted to wearing them at one point or another-in the garden,on the beach on hols,with camo shorts and a Fred Perry in the middle of the summer when it`s really hot,etc-you get the picture-incidently,I can recall reading about elements of the "hard mods/peanuts" wearing Adidas trainers sometimes with Levis and Monkey Jackets back in the mid-60`s...
and just for the record,I`m not saying I wear them on a regular occassion when out and about,as I wear my DM`s,Brogues and Brogue boots the most.But every once in a while I do.
Bunty are you there?
Time for one of your amusing comments: it's all got a bit serious.........
.....and that is partly my fault, I know.
I have a story I have not told here before as far as I can recall. I was with my then girlfriend in the summer of 1969 in a park area close to Basildon on Sunday afternoon. The place was fairly busy and there was a largish skinhead contingent present (Basildon was a big Skinhead town). We were chatting with some of them when the cry went up 'Greasers!'. I looked and saw a few greasers coming towards us (far fewer than the skinhead numbers) and expected a bit of a scrap. Not a bit of it - the skins all ran off towrds the local Police station with me and my GF following closely behind and the greasers quickly gaining on us. We all ran into the cop shop and sought 'asylum'. The copper on duty was pretty cool about it and let us stay until the bastards had gone.
I didn't visit that park again....
As a footnote, the first time I visited the park in question with my parents a few years before I was stung on the bottom by a wasp!!
I have said in the past this thread was getting side tracked, mostly due to people coming on here and not reading the whole thread, so what happens we start going over the same stuff.
Another point what buttons said about this thread was mostly about the original London skinhead scene, and he did admit it was because of the contributions by London skinheads, and that includes MoM/Paul.
Of course i am biased towards London, and mostly dismissed anything outside, But i have never said outer London Skinheads was lesser than us that would be rubbish, To us in the 60s Skinheads was a fashion, London was and still is the centre of World fashion, Outside London would always be a little behind, so thats where we would latch on and take the piss, I travelled all over England as a Chelsea Shed boy ...and saw what Northerners wore and we would take the piss, but at no point did we ever think they was not Skinheads, Often we would come unstuck fighting Northern Skinheads, and to be honest London Skinheads was happy to go to Wolves, Ipswich, Blackpool, But when it came to going to Man Utd , Liverpool, Newcastle, you would be lucky to get a handful. Yes i have a hefty respect for the then Northern Skinhead,
This thread is about Traditional Skinheads, Originals or present day Skinheads..it don't really matter...most of us are singing from the same Hymn sheet,
You have contributed plenty of interesting and worthwhile information to this thread - you're entitled to express your concerns.
The problem with holding a conversation virtually is the lack of facial expression and nuance: words on a page have a way of appearing much starker than when spoken.
Like the wasp story, though!
Little Queenie - so true and very well put, if I may say so.
May I pipe up?
I do usually prefer the 'Originals' to do the disseminating of information, but I've been doing a bit of research on the subject of Northern Skinheads and what they wore to football. I've spoken to a number of my friends in the North and the consensus of opinion seems to be that they did not wear their best clothes to football, but rather dressed in a more 'workmanlike' manner as football was about fighting. However, when they went out at night they dressed very smartly (something I'm guessing you wouldn't have seen much of, Roy if you'd only gone North for the fighting.... I meant football). The 'peacock' mentality that has been mentioned is part of this tradition in the North.
Little Queenie I have admitted on here before i did not see what Northern skinheads wore on a Saturday night., But let me tell you this.. we London Skinheads went to football Daytime smart, We wore our best casual cloths to show off. The Northern Skinheads girls would seek us out, They would hunt around town to see where we was drinking before the game, it would drive the local Skinhead boys mad. Why do you think London skinheads was so hated.
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