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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Spirit of 69, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. Paint House Gang

    Paint House Gang Well-Known Member

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    highlight of that flickr set:

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  2. Lasttye

    Lasttye Senior member

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    The above pic, what is it to do with Traditional Skinheads? They look like a load of students, i assume Man Utd fans from the1968 European Cup Final.
    What the the point of the pic.:confused:
     
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  3. Ed Vaughan

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    ... and I'm guessing their demeanor is because they didn't get a ticket - as opposed to having lost a game.

    But you're right... not really skinhead-related...unless the poster was looking to score points, somehow?

    Maybe he'll let us know. :nodding:
     
  4. bunty

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    I think Paint House Gang is drawing our attention to the lad with the infamous donkey jacket, neat barnet and turn-ups, which is an early ('68) Skinhead look?

    We are trying to find more material to discuss eh chaps? It's getting harder to find anything new. Don't shoot the poor bugger down.(You've all gotta go some to beat the unrelated crap that I post on here :D)
     
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  5. loempiavreter

    loempiavreter Senior member

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    Their shoes are weird in that picture of the Man U fans... The soles are really thin... Suede shoe with brogue pattern on the right? Looks like shoes the current hipsters would wear.

    Question to the originals, Blazers or just suit jackets... would you see something like a POW or windowpane patterned jackets or blazers like those Ivy kids would wear (combined with smart slacks like a pair of white sta prest)? Or did that style went down with the demise of the mods?

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    Found the awnser myself, then I rephrase the question as how widespread this look was:

    On the right, one of the kids whose following Danny "Eccles" Arkins from the Man Alive docu, also with that top button undone + tie combi

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    Also coming back to Adam Ant/Stuart Goddard piece from his book, where he describe sticking a penny in the nape of his Loafers (and if you where fancy, an american penny). Quite ivy, anyone remember doing this?
     
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    Interesting pic as the Lad in the Check jacket and tie looks like my Mate Bill O Marney,RIP, Bill was a well known Chelsea Shed boy from Kilburn.
    If you look at the clip of the Kilburn Phoenix Youth club TV Documentary you will see Bill in that also.
     
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  7. Ed Vaughan

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    I'm certainly not trying to 'shoot anyone' down, as I've posted a few pics (on my short time on the forum) that had already been posted. :embar:

    And, as a 'United' fan, I'm used to everyone 'hating' us. :D
     
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    When you look at these old pics of originals their will alway be someone who wears something thats not the norm, The lad with the check jacket may well be Bill, Bill was a couple of Years older than most of us, and you would find the older lads would often wear some none skinhead clobber, I mean they would not wear Boots and Braces thats for certain, :)
     
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  9. Ed Vaughan

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    I'd wear a pair of cream, Sta-prest (and Royals) with my blazer - used to think I looked rather neat. :happy:

    (I searched for ever to buy a 'gold' thread badge for the pocket - MUFC, of course :) - and when I finally tracked one down... my lot had gone off blazers and the summer had gone.) :brick:
     
  10. Yankee

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    I had seen the stuff about Sharpies earlier in this thread, but always pictures of them with mullets and striped tops, not with trimmed hair and checked button downs, and not this video about them vs mods...

    Hopefully this one hasn't come up before. Did skinhead girls start dressing more like the boys over time? Or were some of them always this "butch?"

    "Saturday afternoon outside Chelsea Football Club in London, 1970. Fans gather and wait to be let into the stands for a match against Queens Park Rangers. Three young girls with boys. Three young girls dressed in the fashion of the time as 'Bovver Birds' wear clothes that mimic boys' attire: high-waisted trousers, shirts and braces."

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    Larger picture:
    http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/n...a-football-club-in-london-news-photo/72449177
     
  11. Yankee

    Yankee Well-Known Member

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    double post!
     
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    Roy,would your Mate have worn Badges on hie Jacket like that?

    bunty,that was a thin reference(the Paint House Picture).I agree with Roy.Even though it is in the North,I think the Geezer with the Donkey Jacket-looks nothing like early Skinhead.Do not forget Council Workmen wore it(or Students trying to looking Working Class).The Turn-ups would be a late 50s/early 60s attempt.I know Photos are getting harder to come by,but please don`t put up anything-just because it is 60s. We put a lot of effort into our "Look",so don`t put us on par with fcking scruffy Students!!!Iknow you were a Student,M-o-M but you put ,more effort into what you wore.:stirpot:
     
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    Roy,would your Mate have worn Badges on hie Jacket like that?

    bunty,that was a thin reference(the Paint House Picture).I agree with Roy.Even though it is in the North,I think the Geezer with the Donkey Jacket-looks nothing like early Skinhead.Do not forget Council Workmen wore it(or Students trying to looking Working Class).The Turn-ups would be a late 50s/early 60s attempt.I know Photos are getting harder to come by,but please don`t put up anything-just because it is 60s. We put a lot of effort into our "Look",so don`t put us on par with fcking scruffy Students!!!Iknow you were a Student,M-o-M but you put ,more effort into what you wore.:stirpot:
     
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    Oh Gawd,Computer again!!
     
  15. Ed Vaughan

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    It HAS to be the '68 European Cup Final (United V Benfica) and, the only people I can (vaguely) remember dressing like that were, non-aligned youngsters (neither one thing, nor other) and blokes who'd just finished work on the docks.

    The fella on the right, even appears to be wearing a 'combat jacket' (ripped?) and none of them would have got into places I frequented dressed like that. (And they weren't that fussy!) :D

    It's most definitely a 'posed shot' by a journo, looking to get the point of: 'Poor us, we've come all this way - and no tickets'. (Been there, done that.) :nodding:
     
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    Get one powered by electrickery - those gas-fired Macs aren't up to it. :satisfied:
     
  17. Ed Vaughan

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    EDIT: Just found this, here: http://m.talksport.co.uk/category/talksport-magazine/big-picture?page=15

    'A group of ticketless United fans look dejected outside Wembley during the 1968 European Cup Final.'
     
  18. bunty

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    Well put, points taken Ed and Brownie.

    We used to wear donkey jackets to look working class too.
    As members of the underclass it was a step up for us :D 'We used to dream of living in corridor......'
     
  19. Brideshead

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    On the subject of odd jackets with trousers, yes that was a short-lived thing for us. I didn't really do that but a friend of mine had a lovely Ivy summer weight madras jacket he wore with trousers or jeans. I remember one evening in Clacton three of us were going out for the night, two in suits and one in the aforementioned jacket, so he had to walk in the middle - for symmetry if you see what I mean!

    On the subject of the evolution around 1967 / 68 as brownie says the look had not crystalised but we were not scruffy. Far from it. That was arguably a smarter time than what came a bit later.

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    I know I've put this up before (it's all I have from the period). But it shows that then, in the early summer of 1967 when I was not yet 15, how important the haircut was already and the clothes - although not skinhead as such - included navy self herringbone suit MTM from Burton, M&S navy botany wool V, striped tie and probably Solatios. When not posing with my mum and dad I would have worn Wrangler cream colour needlecord jacket, Levis and Clarks dessies in that era. It is tempting to want to put up almost any pic from the period and try to make a connection with the thread. I do understand as 'genuine' images are like hen's teef.
     
  20. Lasttye

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    Yes Football Badges was worn on jacket lapels, if you look at the right lapel he is wearing the little round Chelsea badge that was a favorite, other badges would come out , say 70 cup winners etc.
    Bill was a fanatical Chelsea supporter, He sold me Hundreds of Chelsea programmes going back to the 20s for a Fiver, I ended up paying a Pound a week for them...he would come around my house on a Friday for payment, :D
     

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