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  1. Man-of-Mystery

    Man-of-Mystery Senior member

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    It absolutely did not happen on my patch, and that was anywhere between Bromley (Kent) to New Cross and out to Woolwich.

    Like I said, if we sore someone (very rare and not a skin) with braces over a sweater we would shout 'Gumby Man!'
     


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    Just in case the message didn't get through, two pages back, I would have rather eaten my own toenail clippings.
     


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    I must see whether I can find a pic of MY old footie team from London - absolutely no relevance to the thread, but they had a great name - Real Cerveza. :D
     


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    lol, was wondering where you'd hidden yourself Paul!

    thread def took an interesting tangent while you were MIA tho haha
     


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    You're not kidding!
     


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    Obviously I'm a few years younger than MoM but I don't ever remember seeing braces over a sweater ever and as a 12-13 year old Skinhead I would never have been seen dead looking like that. Just in case my memory of the Skinhead scene in and around New Cross/Woolwich etc. is not what it was, I just asked a cousin who was a Mod/Skinhead in that area and he just laughed and said "not fuckin' likely mate!" He did also say that it probably did catch on in the Birmingham area as they were so backward when it came to getting the (London) look correct. My apologies to any Brummies, no offence intended, this is his memory of '67-'69!
     


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    Hello MoM -

    http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/1_edin/...recollections_entertainment_mens_fashions.htm



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    '67/'68 Those long collars again and we are pretty sure that's a 'crombie' (A heavy wool fitted overcoat anyway - is that what Mods used to call a 'car coat'? slightly shorter?)

    Was the film 'Bullitt' big with all lads/Skinheads or just a bit of a cult among the local boys?:D
     


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    I thought Bullitt was ...and still is over rated, The only Bit is the Car Chase, think its a Mustang Shelby, and a Dodge Charger?. The film young Skinheads was bunking into in 68 was the X rated film 17,:D
     


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    So it shows that people saw/recollect things differently. Roy says he remembers seeing skinheads with braces over their jumpers. I have seen loads of pictures confirming this too. But others say it wasn't done.

    I stand by what Roy says. That in those days the braces was seen as the focus of a skinhead along with the boots and youths would like to have them seen.
    Might be a younger thing, but wasn't skinhead a young thing in those days. Unlike today.
     


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    Yes it was a younger thing, It was all about the Boots and Braces, It did not cost much to buy a pair of Army boots and your Dads braces, Wearing braces over jumpers happened, I know as i saw it, and again you are right it was the younger Skinheads who did it, The older Skinheads 18/19 Year olds did not all wear braces anyway, also their hair was a lot longer than ours.
    I have to repeat I was 15 in 69, 70% of Skinheads was around my age, The older Skinheads 18/19 Year olds who was often the gang leaders would dress more sensible ...if thats the right word,:)
     
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    Okay fellas, one thing I don't think has been mentioned that much in this thread (and I've read through it approximately one and a half times) is the Jamaican influence on original skinheads. It is very difficult to find relevant photos of Jamaican rudeboys online without Rihanna turning up, or photos of 90s frat boys in Hawaiian shirts and check ties.

    So, my question - does anybody have any information/photos/articles relating to the influence that Jamaican rudeboys had on the original set of skinheads in the late '60s? Was this as important an influence as many sources would have us believe, or a media construct? The short cropped jeans and trousers and, to some extent suits seem mainly attributed to this influence, as well as some sources claiming the short hair was originally a Jamaican thing.

    Anybody?

    Alex
     


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    I guess I should reference my display pic (Jackie Mittoo; Jamaican) which is possibly my favourite photo of anybody wearing a suit and something I want to use as a reference if I ever get the clams to go bespoke. Not sure when it was taken though...
     


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    It just goes to show that everyone's memory of how it was for them or in their area is different. The proof is in the photo's of the time, braces can be seen over sweaters etc. But that does not mean it was widespread or in every area or even restricted to younger Skinheads. I am a couple years younger than Roy and I would never have worn braces over my sweater. But that would have been because I would be emulating my older brother, cousins and other Skinheads in our particular area of south London. I think too many people nowadays are trying to find the definitive Skinhead look of the '60's and re-create it but there were so many different aspects to the look. It changed so fast and then other areas/cities/towns had their own look.....infinite possibilities to draw on now!

    Roy's got it right again when he says the largest percentage of Skinheads were around 15/16, and they drove the movement forward (into whatever the media wanted to call the next progression of the look).
     


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