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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Spirit of 69, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. browniecj

    browniecj Senior member

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    There has been a lot of Stuff that has been written,then copied on other Sites.It is not the fact of People come from different Areas-it is because they know what they are talking about.For me it is interesting to hear(and looking at the Photos posted) from Originals in other Parts.I did "Up West" etc.,but Clubs like the "Twisted Wheel","Mojos" and others hold a fascination for me.If I would be honest here,not all the Clubs in London were that great!I went to some dire Dives(only once though).
     
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    Regarding Clubs, in London we did not go to clubs as such, it was a Disco, Pubs would see they could make money from the Skinhead fashion and would hold Disco's, these only lasted for a short time because of the aggro caused, Places like the Tottenham Royal and The Lyceum was Dance Halls that would have nights for Teenagers.
    Clubs as in Working class clubs was a Northern thing and far superior than anything in London.
     
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    I can only speak for me but, IIRC, around south Manchester, many of the 'clubs' (for the younger element like me 13-16), were usually in church halls, above shops (Co-op stores often had a small hall above them) and there would always be aggro after they closed at night. :nodding:

    Usual stuff, 'what are you looking at?'

    'You sniffing after my bird?'

    "You're not from round here, are you?' - everyday, run-of-the-mill, dust-ups. :satisfied:

    Of course, they were really what should have been called 'junior discos', and, when we could grow proper sideburns... they'd get the elbow in favour of pub discos and real clubs.

    In my young, pre-booze days, I'd go to Bernadettes, Edwards, Browns (Splinters), Kent's, or the fabulously named, 'Pop-In'-... dizzy, heady stuff. (yeh, right!):D

    At 16, and in work, I'd go to Top-of-the Town, Takis, (Rownrtrees) Spring Gardens, or (Rowntrees) Sound. All fairly happy to have skins and (later) suadeheads... but no DMs.

    Then there was Belle Vue, New Century Hall (CIS with bouncing floor), and the RITZ!!! (Where, in 70/71, you could get the Radio 1 club live (lunchtime), and people would skip work to go.)

    Did the Twisted Wheel a few times... very grown-up for me at 16, but I loved it and was incredibly sad when it closed. (Not really a skinhead venue, either.)

    Happy days. :)

    Edit: Looking for pics of some of the venues mentioned above, I found this: http://www.manchesterbeat.com/venues/manchester_cbd/rowntrees/rowntrees.php
     
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    Good post Ed, Yes before we started to drink alcohol, it was the Youth club or Church that held a Disco, Also some local Pictures,/ Cinema's like the Top Rank chain. had a disco before Saturday morning Pictures, :D
    Going back to clubs, Night clubs, Skinheads in 69 would not dream of going to a Night club, One it was to us sleezy, and Two we was just to young, in saying that even as i got older 19/21 I still did not go to Night Clubs.

    Just got to add, Night Clubs as in the West End of London. Which would be full of Druggies, Weirdos and Tourist,:D
     
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    ...and was it the same in your day - to get in, did a group of blokes have to split up and go in with a girl just to get past the bouncers? :D

    Great site that Manchesterbeat, thanks Ed.
     
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    And me,Roy-well in The Limbo and the Roaring Twenties.Places like the Marquee did not sell Alcohol-just watered down Coke-I was 16 when I first went in there.Stayed clear of Church Hall Discos(as has been said too much Aggro).Though there was one that was held in Great Bookham Village Hall and there were no problems(I have written about this before),even though two Mobs were in attendance.
     
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    Ooops!
     
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    Edited due to idiocy.
     
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    Oh yeah - and now I look like a group of blokes when I'm on my own (see image).
     
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    Behave yerself, I thought you looked uncannily like Eric Cantona :happy:
     
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    All the time, Lads would split up and find a girl to link up with to get in, Bouncers was cnuts back then... bullies bullying around what was just kids, Now and again the bouncers would come unstuck, and get themselves a hiding.
    Their was a group of Bouncers around NW London that would Bounce in a few discos, One night they tried to throw one of the lads out, what they did not know it was full of Kilburn and Hendon, They got such a kicking that they was never seen bouncing on doors again, :D
     
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    I remember in the late 70s,Doormen from the Tottenham Royal came to Ilford-got far as the" Room At The Top".Bouncers wanted to prove themselves-but a lot of the time they would hide,if real Aggro started.Dragged more than one out of the Toilets over the years!:)
     
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    There was a pub over the road and a bit along from the Savoy Rooms in Catford. Some of us would go over there when we got fed up of drinking coke. We'd pop over for a light-and-bitter or something. The landlord eventually barred anyone who looked a bit skinhead-ish because a lot of the clientele at the savoy were under age to drink. I remember giving the barman an argument when he tried not to serve me and I did get served.
     
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    Ooh! Aah!
     
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    Man-of-Mystery Senior member

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    ... when ze seageurls follow ze trawlaire...
     
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    Man-of-Mystery Senior member

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    Bob and Susie, Edinburgh, 3rd March. Nice pic. :)

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    (c) me.
     
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    Got to go lads, the Fuehrer's just got back from Tescos and I should be painting....:)


    ^ Great photo MoM, they look cracking together.
     
  18. browniecj

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    The Bouncers were alright in the Plaza.Helped us out a few times if a rival Mob came over.Had to go to the Pub though,for a Beer-non Alcoholic Bar in the Club.
     
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    The only real power bouncers had was not letting you in, once we was in we had the power......:D,:D
     
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    From what I've read, the sharpies did begin before skinheads (late 50's even), but their style changed over time and by the late 60's they probably were influenced by skinheads coming in from the UK. These mid 60's sharpies look quite different from the 70's ones, who look like a strange mix between skinheads, glam and some sort of redneck.
    Also, there are newspaper articles from the early 70's about sharpies where they're called skinheads, which is another evidence of the UK influence on the cult over the years.

     

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