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  1. Slack or Death

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    Thanks GS.

    Yeah, it's kind of sad really. Lots of these kids wearing braces and boots won't be wearing them anymore once something new comes in. I guess it's because of the way culture is nowadays, people don't really get shit for looking like a Skinhead like they used to. Wearing braces and boots probably will lump you in as being trendy/fashionable instead of being a part of a clique. I always cringe whenever I go see someone wear a Ben Sherman or a Fred Perry as "designer" wear, not knowing the history behind them, same as when I see someone wear a pair of Dr Martens all loose and with the jeans tucked in.
     
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  2. Get Smart

    Get Smart Don't Crink

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    yea it's totally different nowadays. Back in the 80s you got shit for being a skinhead, so no one would just play dress up because they "liked the style". You go out in the world and even normal people knew to some degree what you were since skinheads were all over the media back then and Joe Public had an idea of what you were (right or wrong) But that was part of the appeal, being "Hated and Proud"

    funny story on a related note.....the other friday the missus and I are out getting dinner at one of our fave local pizza joints. it's crowded so we're waiting for a table, some guy from bar area comes up to me and says "man i want to shake your hand. You're in here flying your colors and I appreciate that, being a working class guy" (I was wearing my DMs, MA-1 jacket with my flag and other patches on it). oooookay, so I say thanks. We start eating and halfway thru guy comes up again (normal looking guy, doesnt look anything related to skinheads, mods, anything) and again says 'I just gotta shake your hand again, being here and flying your colors, these yuppies don't know what's up etc etc" but the highlight was he asked what we were drinking and bought us a 2nd round :slayer:! I just thought it interesting he sussed me out like that, and not looking like he would know anything about the scene.
     


  3. War Beast

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    That is awesome! I was eating at an Asian buffet with my at the time gf, we were both donning the boots and braces. When it came time to pay the waiter came by and told me that the people who had been sitting next to us paid for our meal.

    I felt pretty good.
     


  4. Brideshead

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    I've been away from this thread for a few days and it has really gone mad. A lot to catch up on....

    In the meantime - Welcome all new members
     


  5. Choco G

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    Late 60's, early 70's, I don't remember any of my mates or their older brothers that were Skinheads ever talking about politics. We were just working class kids that got on with life and what got thrown at us. Later on when punk was evolving / dying out, there were bands that attracted a more hardcore following such as Slaughter and the Dogs, Angelic Upstarts, Sham 69 etc. These bands had a so-called Skinhead following but as said before, we never associated ourselves with them and called them Boneheads. They were nothing like us in any way - dress or attitude. We constantly found ourselves fighting with them, we thought they were racist, glue-sniffing punks and they thought we were Mods! I remember fighting punks and boneheads on the Kings Road, Chelsea alongside some Teds, this would have been '76/'77. Gotta love the ol' Teds, gawd bless 'em!! I also remember having a riot in Southend when a small bunch of us attacked some Nazi Boneheads being escorted to the train station by the police. We were totally outnumbered but the element of suprise was used to great effect. The police stood and watched!

    I guess my point is, the later "Skinheads" were more likely to be political and the originals were much less likely to be. The later one's followed, like sheep, the right wing ideal's of their peers without knowing or understanding why and in the process we all got tarred with the same brush. I knew of NF Boneheads that had black and Asian's in their crews - go figure! I would guess the Angelic Upstarts, coming from the north-east of England, were more likely to be Labour supporters and left-wing. Kinda ironic that they attracted a right-wing Bonehead following.
     


  6. Get Smart

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    skinhead has always had a "class" association, so whether it's openly discussed or not, politics is going to have its place with the scene in some capacity

    but what I have issue with are skinheads who got into it BECAUSE they want to be political (left or right). and I dont agree with how being "far left" is often excused as better than being "far right". TBH it seems many times the far left are more of a disturbance and engage in political disturbances in the scene, than the far right which it seeks to demonize.
     
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  7. War Beast

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    I still have a hard time reading this stuff because even though my politics are right leaning and to some of you I would be considered a "bonehead" The way I look at it is I'm a skinhead that just happens to be a racialist, but at the same time not all racialists are skinheads. It's such a confusing cycle but either way. I have respect for all traditionals regardless of color or politics. I would have to say that I believe I am the smartest dressed WN skin anywhere around this area. lol
     


  8. Choco G

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    Thanks OHT, I'm glad I can educate you in some way!

    One of my top 3 fav movies too, along with American Graffiti and Two Lane Blacktop!




    Spot on again Lasttye. The middle class kis were Heads, Freaks and Hairies. Any working class kid that wasn't Skinhead was either a Greaser or plain nothing!


    The media loved Skinheads, they dined out on us for quite some time! Skinheads destroyed life as we knew it in the UK, brought down governments, closed coal mines and the shipyards, raped and pillaged throughout the country, started wars, forced up the cost of living.......etc. etc.



    It's strange that anyone who is in to the Skinhead look buys in to the "if it says Sta-Prest on it then it must be right" idea. As I, and others like Lasttye have said before, we never wore these jeans EVER! The one's Levi made that we wore were a soft and shiny Gaberdine/Poly/Cotton type of material.
     


  9. Get Smart

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    def not the case anymore, as Mensi and his cohorts have been on a smear campaign to label non-political bands "nazis" in England. Sad really that guys like him and Roddy Moreno have gotten so far away from their original skinhead roots, and find their place in the scene to be politicians now, stirring up witch-hunts
     


  10. War Beast

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    THANK YOU!!! SO MUCH!

    like I said above, I'm a skinhead who happens to be a racialist, compared to a skinhead who isn't. Both are still skinheads but they just have different views on race/religion/politics/etc. Then you have someone who goes and makes a scene by being ANTI-Racialist Skinheads.. seriously? Why not just be a non-political skinhead? SHARPS/ARA were both formed on politics that were skinheads.. NOT skinheads that were about politics.

    That is about as deep into politics as I would like to get on this board though. lol

    by the way GS, is there a reputation button or something on this forum? If so you'd have a thumbs up from me.
     


  11. Get Smart

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    probably a good idea to put an end to talking about politics since this thread isnt about that, even tangentially as it opens up a can of worms and feelings get hurt :)

    point is, everyone has some kind of political belief. but it should have no bearing on being a skinhead
     


  12. War Beast

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    I am also curious as to what you guys think about Polo Ralph Lauren brand shirts.. polos or knits. I am able to find 80-90's era RLP's in thrift stores (I live in Dixie Land USA so there aren't many FP's or BS's for sale.. anywhere.) for cheap and they look pretty good under my jumpers/harringtons.

    Thoughts?
     


  13. robinsongreen68

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    does WN mean white nazi?
     
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    You may have a hard time reading other posts in the same way the rest of us do reading yours because of your politics. Speaking for myself (and only myself), I will respect your right to follow your chosen political agenda but you are not a Skinhead in the traditional sense and that is what this forum's thread is about. That is what brings us all together on here - all ages, all colors, creeds, gender and for us in the UK, whatever soccer team we support! If you dress more traditional you will still be a racist but leave the politics out of it and talk trad.clothes and ideals and we'll all get along fine! At the end of the day, it seems like everyone on here has a lot of respect for each other, their views, where they come from and for traditional values not just the traditional Skinhead look.
     


  15. robinsongreen68

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    hmmm
     
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