Mod to Suedehead

[Man-of-Mystery]

Thank you gentlemen, now it is clear, if in those times, Baracuta was "on fire" (TV series, sell in John Simons...) is rare that the Golfer was in the modernist scene, I understand that in the years of revival it was the same? Baracuta, Ben Sherman, Merc... not Grenfell.

regards

There is, of course, a famous picture of Eric Clapton in his mod days, in the Yardbirds, wearing a popped-collar golfing jacket. I believe it has been identified as a Barracuta, but not a G9. It does not have an elasticated waist.

Help me out, guys?

 

[Botolph]

There is, of course, a famous picture of Eric Clapton in his mod days, in the Yardbirds, wearing a popped-collar golfing jacket. I believe it has been identified as a Barracuta, but not a G9. It does not have an elasticated waist.

Help me out, guys?

G2?

 

[Clouseau]

Nope. G4
@Man-of-Mystery

G4

fr.baracuta.com

 

[Reggae Mike]

Hard to tell. This color one looks like regular sleeves.

 

[Man-of-Mystery]

Meanwhile in Bluesville, Soul Shack has dropped another podcast.

Soul Shack Blues Special by STARSoulShack | Mixcloud

 

[Thin White Duke]

Hard to tell. This color one looks like regular sleeves. View attachment 2247505 View attachment 2247507

Not sure what you mean by ‘regular’ sleeves.
‘Regular’ sleeves on a Harrington are the elasticated knitted version which is why the G-9 is the model for countless versions and knock offs down the decades.
Clapton’s in all of the above pics has the shirt style sleeves. I forget what model number Baracuta gave but there are variations with shirt style sleeves, non-elasticated bottoms, pointy shirt style collars etc but with these variations they get farther and farther from an actual Harrington and for me the G-9 will always be the gold standard.

It’s similar for trench coats. The old Burberry is the gold standard - double breasted, shoulder patch, belt, wrist straps, epaulets. I think like Grenfell with the golf jacket, Aquascutum lays a spurious claim to be the original but in the early 20th century British officers got their kit from HM Suppliers who may well have been working from the same patterns. My Dad’s RAF great coat is Burberry, much nicer than the rough melton army and navy shop version. His black flight overalls are Austin Reed before he got a slate grey broad arrow supplied flight suit.

Anyway the further you get away from the original the less meaningful the nomenclature. It bugs me to see Harry Palmer style rain coats described as a ‘trench coat’.

 

[Reggae Mike]

Not sure what you mean by ‘regular’ sleeves.
‘Regular’ sleeves on a Harrington are the elasticated knitted version which is why the G-9 is the model for countless versions and knock offs down the decades.
Clapton’s in all of the above pics has the shirt style sleeves. I forget what model number Baracuta gave but there are variations with shirt style sleeves, non-elasticated bottoms, pointy shirt style collars etc but with these variations they get farther and farther from an actual Harrington and for me the G-9 will always be the gold standard.

It’s similar for trench coats. The old Burberry is the gold standard - double breasted, shoulder patch, belt, wrist straps, epaulets. I think like Grenfell with the golf jacket, Aquascutum lays a spurious claim to be the original but in the early 20th century British officers got their kit from HM Suppliers who may well have been working from the same patterns. My Dad’s RAF great coat is Burberry, much nicer than the rough melton army and navy shop version. His black flight overalls are Austin Reed before he got a slate grey broad arrow supplied flight suit.

Anyway the further you get away from the original the less meaningful the nomenclature. It bugs me to see Harry Palmer style rain coats described as a ‘trench coat’.

I was trying to point out the sleeves were not raglan, but seem to have seams on the shoulder.

 

[Reggae Mike]

Meanwhile in Bluesville, Soul Shack has dropped another podcast.

Soul Shack Blues Special by STARSoulShack | Mixcloud

Another great one. My fave blues guy is SRV. Not an original, but his guitar skills are divine. Never heard Brown Sugar, thats a hot one

 

[Man-of-Mystery]

Another great one. My fave blues guy is SRV. Not an original, but his guitar skills are divine. Never heard Brown Sugar, thats a hot one

Shakura S'Aida is a revelation!

 

[Thin White Duke]

I was trying to point out the sleeves were not raglan, but seem to have seams on the shoulder.

Ah right - interesting.
I thought G-9s usually had raglan sleeves.
I currently have two Harringtons - both Fred Perry.
Royal blue made in China with PoW lining and raglan sleeves.
Red made in England with Stewart tartan lining and set in sleeves.
I think I prefer the look of set in sleeves but don’t think it’s a deal breaker.

 

[Reggae Mike]

Ah right - interesting.
I thought G-9s usually had raglan sleeves.
I currently have two Harringtons - both Fred Perry.
Royal blue made in China with PoW lining and raglan sleeves.
Red made in England with Stewart tartan lining and set in sleeves.
I think I prefer the look of set in sleeves but don’t think it’s a deal breaker.

Those FP Harringtons are very nice. I perfer the raglan but have a real nice Brooks Bros one with set in sleeves in a twill fabric with blue uni stripe lining that I love.

 

[Reggae Mike]

Where tunes like this unliked or unplayed in Britain? They seem to be missing from amongst the seemingly more danceable hits of the era.

 

[Man-of-Mystery]

Where tunes like this unliked or unplayed in Britain? They seem to be missing from amongst the seemingly more danceable hits of the era.

I often wondered whether people of the Northern Soul persuasion collected anything other than dance tunes. Did they, I wondered, also collect and listen to "obscure" soul ballads - of which there must have been as many as there were dance tunes. In the early mid-70s, when I was still living in London, I heard of this thing called "Northern Soul," and I thought to myself, "I'm originally from the North, and I like Soul, so I'll join their club* and get their magazine." The first issue I got quoted someone saying prominently, "We don't like Stax, we don't like Atlantic, we don't like Motown." So I said to myself, "They don't like Stax, they don't like Atlantic, they don't like Motown - then they don't like Soul!" and I resigned, never got another issue of the club magazine. So I never got to ask anyone what else they listened to, and I never got to any of the NS venues. By the time I got back up North, it was about time for Punk to burst on the scene and I was in my late 20s by then anyway. But I often wonder how many Soul tracks from big or small labels never made it into anyone's collection at all.
*At the time, the club was run from an address in Whitchurch, Shropshire, if I remember rightly.

 

[Reggae Mike]

I often wondered whether people of the Northern Soul persuasion collected anything other than dance tunes. Did they, I wondered, also collect and listen to "obscure" soul ballads - of which there must have been as many as there were dance tunes. In the early mid-70s, when I was still living in London, I heard of this thing called "Northern Soul," and I thought to myself, "I'm originally from the North, and I like Soul, so I'll join their club* and get their magazine." The first issue I got quoted someone saying prominently, "We don't like Stax, we don't like Atlantic, we don't like Motown." So I said to myself, "They don't like Stax, they don't like Atlantic, they don't like Motown - then they don't like Soul!" and I resigned, never got another issue of the club magazine. So I never got to ask anyone what else they listened to, and I never got to any of the NS venues. By the time I got back up North, it was about time for Punk to burst on the scene and I was in my late 20s by then anyway. But I often wonder how many Soul tracks from big or small labels never made it into anyone's collection at all.
*At the time, the club was run from an address in Whitchurch, Shropshire, if I remember rightly.

Very interesting. Thats a very odd statement for a soul club to make. Over here certain subcultures prefer the ballads. For example Smokey Robinsons The Agony and the Ecstasy or Crusin' would be perfered and Going to a go go would not get play.

 

[covskin]

Where tunes like this unliked or unplayed in Britain? They seem to be missing from amongst the seemingly more danceable hits of the era.

I had the impression lots of black acts never made it across the Atlantic. The sort of acts LA rappers of the 90s and 00s would sample from their parents' record collection but we had never heard of.

Northern Soul had mined into that seam but was rather time-limited. A similar scene arose in the UK in the mid-80s called Rare Groove, often similarly unlistenable but drawing from the late 70s/early 80s.

In terms of subculture it came after Soul Boy but before Acid Jazz and was alternative to House.

To my ears this royalty-free YouTube track captures the sound of Rare Groove at its best