Mod to Suedehead

[cocostella]

@Thin White Duke
Was fortunate enough to catch The Jam in Pasadena, Ca when I was in high school. I was one of a few passionate Mods down here in San Diego, courtesy of a Brit soccer exchange student who forever changed my musical tastes back in ‘80. Have seen Weller many times here and up in LA. Skipped the last couple, as he’d just become too damn sappy for me. Excited to be going up to Anaheim to catch him this time (tho he’s playing nearby, my old Mod mate had tickets for Anaheim), and glad to hear he’s dipping back into the catalogue at least a bit. Thanks for the read…

 

[Reggae Mike]

@Thin White Duke
Was fortunate enough to catch The Jam in Pasadena, Ca when I was in high school. I was one of a few passionate Mods down here in San Diego, courtesy of a Brit soccer exchange student who forever changed my musical tastes back in ‘80. Have seen Weller many times here and up in LA. Skipped the last couple, as he’d just become too damn sappy for me. Excited to be going up to Anaheim to catch him this time (tho he’s playing nearby, my old Mod mate had tickets for Anaheim), and glad to hear he’s dipping back into the catalogue at least a bit. Thanks for the read…

Did you play here last week?

 

[cocostella]

Yes. Belly Up Tavern last Saturday.

 

[Reggae Mike]

Yes. Belly Up Tavern last Saturday.
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I wanted to go but I had cold. Bet it was awesome.

 

[cocostella]

It was fun. Maybe there’ll be another time. I never say never, but am good for now… Not exactly “Mod to Suedehead” material, but I did at least wear red socks with black Weejuns, black stovepipe trousers and a black Lacoste Polo 😉.

 

[Reggae Mike]

I was there a week earlier for Arron Frazer. Had on Ben Sherman and Levis Sta Prest with black smooth leather shoes. Coincidentally I started with a scratchy throat that night.

 

[Guaperet]

Hi, i want ask a question , was Grenfell brand in 60's Mod Subculture,? if is yes, in particular Golfer Jacket? or not, Grenfell brand never was in Mod Subculture?, thanks

 

[Man-of-Mystery]

Hi, i want ask a question , was Grenfell brand in 60's Mod Subculture,? if is yes, in particular Golfer Jacket? or not, Grenfell brand never was in Mod Subculture?, thanks

I never saw it, although that's no real indication.

I have one of their Harringtons - paid through the nose for it and I never wear it because the collar doesn't pop up.

 

[Guaperet]

Thanks Sir,
i ask why for me is more elegant a Golfer Jacket by Grenfell that classic Harrington , and think about the possibility that this jacket was in modernist 60's scene.


regards

 

[Man-of-Mystery]

Thanks Sir,
i ask why for me is more elegant a Golfer Jacket by Grenfell that classic Harrington , and think about the possibility that this jacket was in modernist 60's scene.


regards

Well, the Grenfell company was formed in the 1920s, but I don't know when they produced their golf jacket. Barracuta was formed in 1912 (I think) introduced the G9 in 1937. Whether Grenfell's jacket copied Barracuta or Barracuta's copied Grenfell I can't say. It was the G9 that appeared in the window of John Simon in London, where it was first labelled as "The Rodney Harrington jacket," and it was at John Simon where discerning London mods - and, later, discerning London skinheads - shopped for their clothes. As I said, I can't say whether mods ever wore a Grenfell golf jacket, but given that they were always a pricey item, and that by the time skinheads adopted them there were thousands of cheap knock-offs that started to become available, my doubts about Grenfells having been a mod item are increasing. Anyone know different?

By the way, the cloth of my Grenfell is superb, notwithstanding my dislike of the collar.

 

[Botolph]

By the way, the cloth of my Grenfell is superb, notwithstanding my dislike of the collar.

Absolutely agree. I have a Grenfell mac(made with that particular cloth as well). The cloth both looks beautiful and does what it’s supposed to. It has a certain irridescent, almost tonik, effect. Very nice cloth, and their items are made to last. Very expensive, but worth it.

 

[Clouseau]

I never saw it, although that's no real indication.

I have one of their Harringtons - paid through the nose for it and I never wear it because the collar doesn't pop up.

Speaking of "Harringtons" I have two MiE Baracutas (pre and post Lavori), the collars pop up nicely. I also prefer the collar popped up when there is tartan on the lapels, I don’t like too much showing (personal preference). I also have an Aquascutum and a (surprisingly good) Uniqlo U, I wear those with the collar flat as there isn’t tartan on the lapels. Next one will be a MiE Fred Perry.

On another topic the Challenge will run until September 30th. Where are your Bennies, Jaytex, Brutus, Mikkel Rude ? 😉

Friday Challenge Short sleeve button up

Last days of summer and last occasions to wear short sleeves button up shirts... This Challenge looks simple : wear a short sleeve button up (t-shirt, tennis/polo shirt won't qualify) of any style : Camper, Button down, Nehru, Cuban collar, Check, Hawaïan, Plain, Madras... many options. Simple...

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[Thin White Duke]

Thanks Sir,
i ask why for me is more elegant a Golfer Jacket by Grenfell that classic Harrington , and think about the possibility that this jacket was in modernist 60's scene.


regards

My understanding is that Barracuta may claim to ‘inventing’ the Harrington jacket and that it was their version that was worn by Elvis, Sinatra and Ryan O’Neal himself as Rodney Harrington n ‘Peyton Place’ that was picked up and marketed as a ‘Harrington jacket’ by the shop in London I th

Well, the Grenfell company was formed in the 1920s, but I don't know when they produced their golf jacket. Barracuta was formed in 1912 (I think) introduced the G9 in 1937. Whether Grenfell's jacket copied Barracuta or Barracuta's copied Grenfell I can't say. It was the G9 that appeared in the window of John Simon in London, where it was first labelled as "The Rodney Harrington jacket," and it was at John Simon where discerning London mods - and, later, discerning London skinheads - shopped for their clothes. As I said, I can't say whether mods ever wore a Grenfell golf jacket, but given that they were always a pricey item, and that by the time skinheads adopted them there were thousands of cheap knock-offs that started to become available, my doubts about Grenfells having been a mod item are increasing. Anyone know different?

By the way, the cloth of my Grenfell is superb, notwithstanding my dislike of the collar.

i composed a reply very much along these lines but due to the **** way this board operates of late it crashed and I couldn’t be arsed to repeat it all so thanks for saying what I was trying to say MoM - with some added detail!

Just out of interest I’ll add that I only ever heard of the John Simons / Squire shops in recent years on boards like this one. Even though as a far northerner my knowledge of London is / was obviously limited, not only did I never hear of it during visits to The Smoke over the years since 1980 (spent several months there in summer 1987) I never even heard mention of it in various books (Richard Barnes, Smiler, Terry Rawlings et al). I used to love to visit Kensington Market, Flip, Camden on a Sunday etc looking for bargains, vintage and exclusive stuff you never saw oop north, but in all those visits I never heard of the place. Hope to get there one day, along with Stuart’s of London which appears to be a similar niche.

 

[Guaperet]

Thank you gentlemen, now it is clear, if in those times, Baracuta was "on fire" (TV series, sell in John Simons...) is rare that the Golfer was in the modernist scene, I understand that in the years of revival it was the same? Baracuta, Ben Sherman, Merc... not Grenfell.

regards

 

[Reggae Mike]

I think the G9's pockets are cooler.