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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Spirit of 69, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. Man-of-Mystery

    Man-of-Mystery Senior member

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    Have you seen this, it uses the 'hard Mod' term in 1972....


    Folk Devils & Moral Panics - The Creation of The Mods & Rockers

    Stanley Cohen 1972 Granada Publishing, first published in GB by MacGibbon & Kee Ltd

    Page 187

    Any Use?


    Good reference bunty!
     


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    More from 'Folk Devils...'


    page 200


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    Alex Roest Senior member

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    Perhaps the most interesting pic from Nick Knight's book:

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    Early skin with mods, April 1967
     


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    browniecj Senior member

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    So Trogg was a media name.Thought I had not heard that Term before.
     


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    I take it you're not a member yourself?

    Paddy Grady is a personal friend of mine. He's on facebook if you want to check him out. Still lives in Northampton. My brother is on that site aswell. Plus my oldest brother used to DJ at the Shades Club in the late 60s early 70s.
     


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    Regarding Slade, No one was interested in them when we was Skinheads, We never heard of them until the Glam Rock thing appeared.
    For some reason they are popular with present day skinheads.


    Roy most present day Skinheads are revival Skinheads so are about my age. Im 46 and when i was first interested in Music Slade were the band at the time. Along with Sweet, T-Rex ect. So i assuming thats why many of today Skinheads can relate to them. Not because they dressed as Skinheads for ten minutes.
     


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    It was funny Paddy Grady would talk about a top night spot,being in a village.There was one I attended with my Mates-in Bookham,Surrey(the Village Hall).It was unique in the fact that ,besides playing great Reggae,there was no trouble either(not the times i went ).There were two Mobs in attendance-us and the Epsom Boys.There was an unwritten Truce between the two lots of Skinheads.We would stand one side of the dancefloor and they the other.No word was spoken between us but we watched each other dance(clap if the dancing was good), and to a certain extent hold a Fashion Show.No chanting of Football Slogans or anything like that.The Girls were gorgeous as well.This would be about `69.



    Around Northamptonshire in those days all the good reggae and soul pubs were in villages. You had The George in Wilby. The Paddock Hotel, Harpole. The Sywell Hotel, Sywell. The Nags Head, Wollaston and so on. All great places. Unfortunatly i missed the best times. My brothers were regulars at these places though.
     


  9. Man-of-Mystery

    Man-of-Mystery Senior member

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    Bunty again good reference. That's a good analysis. I remember thinking at the time "The bloody press are just looking for this year's 'mods-and-rockers'."
     


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    Am I right in assuming that the Bank Holiday thing did not die out in `65.It was just more heavily Policed for awhile-I went`67 and the Police presence had dropped again.
     


  11. Man-of-Mystery

    Man-of-Mystery Senior member

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    Ebbed and flowed, brownie.
     


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    Yeah I remember "spy kids" - we used to laugh about that, some journo mis-hearing "spike-heads".

    Makes you wonder about George Marshall's crew [​IMG]

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    Makes you wonder about George Marshall's crew [​IMG]

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    Oh you wouldn't bloody read about it!!!![​IMG]
     


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    Oh you wouldn't bloody read about it!!!![​IMG]

    Funny how stuff like that can take on a life of its own though. I can still remember when I first joined an internet forum I asked after the term and nobody knew the answer? (despite the fact that some people were pretty clued up otherwise...)
     


  15. Man-of-Mystery

    Man-of-Mystery Senior member

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    Funny how stuff like that can take on a life of its own though. I can still remember when I first joined an internet forum I asked after the term and nobody knew the answer? (despite the fact that some people were pretty clued up otherwise...)

    I think you must start from the premise that media folk are always going to get something fundamental wrong.

    I'm just thinking of the confusion between the words 'caff' (cafe) and 'gaff' (premises, house) in the 'Smithies' article.

    It occurs to me that the Glasgow mob should call themselves 'Glesca Jag-Heids' if they want to render the term 'Spy Kids'/'Spike Heads' in its strictest translation.
     


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