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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Spirit of 69, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. Lasttye

    Lasttye Senior member

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    Do you know when this one was taken?

    July 1969 Little Queenie, Della told me the jacket was part of a suit.
     
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    What a lovely photograph, even if it wasn't of interest to us from a Skinhead point of view, it's very well taken.

    Della did say the dress was not Skinhead, but modelled it for someone. Well spotted Little Queenie.
     
  4. Man-of-Mystery

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    You will Paul. Because over night every one in the UK Wanted to be a Skinhead [​IMG]

    Yeah Roy, but I already WAS one.
     
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    Have you notice the Lad with the John Smedley type top and Gerry in the Kilburn mob has the same one.

    I have a couple of John Smedley tops like in those pictures (bottle green one and sky blue one). Some of my mates do not reckon them to be skinhead and call me a mod whenever I wear them.
     
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    Yeah Roy, but I already WAS one.
    Me too but you know what i mean Paul, and thats where people started to get it wrong even back then,
     
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    I have a couple of John Smedley tops like in those pictures (bottle green one and sky blue one). Some of my mates do not reckon them to be skinhead and call me a mod whenever I wear them.

    Well your mates are wrong as we can see from the pics, I had that type of top myself back then, And i have a couple of John Smedley now.
     
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    Me too but you know what i mean Paul, and thats where people started to get it wrong even back then,

    Yep, exactly, Roy.
     
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    Roy - amongst Della's press clippings would there be an article from the Daily Mirror in 1969 entitled 'No One Likes Johnny'? Or even the one which (to my eternal embarrassment) calls me 'King of the Skinheads'? (That took some bloody living down, I can tell you!).

    Alex - either of those in your collection?


    Unfortunately not Paul, think we need to work something out here though...

    Does anyone actually remember mods in the 1960s wearing Harringtons? I can't say that I do. Monkey jackets yes, Harringtons no.

    It says in Mods! on page 15 that The Harrington jacket had come in. That's the casual zip-up jacket, usually in suede, inspired by Rodney Harrington, a character in the American T.V. soap opera Peyton Place.

    We're talking the period when Mod had grown and stretched itself all over England mind you. I'll be in touch with one of my main sources on this one. I know for one thing that he reckons it was all over by '63 so we'll have to take that into consideration as well I suppose...
     
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    Unfortunately not Paul, think we need to work something out here though...



    It says in Mods! on page 15 that The Harrington jacket had come in. That's the casual zip-up jacket, usually in suede, inspired by Rodney Harrington, a character in the American T.V. soap opera Peyton Place.

    We're talking the period when Mod had grown and stretched itself all over England mind you. I'll be in touch with one of my main sources on this one. I know for one thing that he reckons it was all over by '63 so we'll have to take that into consideration as well I suppose...

    The Mods wore the Golf version of the Harrington(without the knitted cuffs and waist).If you watch RSG(vol.1,I have a pirate version),you have two of them wearing them-with cycling shirts-dancing.As with the Wing-Tips,I do not remember them being worn by Mods.But I can have a vague recollection of seeing them prior to the Skinhead Scene(maybe one or two years before).
    Going by the Photos of Della(`69/70),could I put the one with the short Dress about `68.It is more Mod than Skinhead.I can remember Dresses like that being in a Dark/Bottle Green and the Shoes being a light Tan(shaded).My Wife looked at the Photo and said Della may have bought the Shoes in the West End(She can remember similar ones in Russell and Bromley).Susie also maintains that there was an offshot of Mods/Skinheads who wore West End Styles(rather than Ivy/Squire Shop Style).She worked in Bond Street in `68/69.This tallies with an experience I had,about `69 when myself and my Mates went to where my Sister was Boarding.She and Her Mates were having problems with some Greasers,who hung about the School.When we got there we found the local Boys(what we thought would be Skins)turned out in different Clothing .They had their Hair longer,French influence Clothing,coloured Shirts and wore Loafers.These were not Mods who were out of date.This preceeded the "Smooth"Look by at least 2 years.
     
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    Going by the Photos of Della(`69/70),could I put the one with the short Dress about `68.It is more Mod than Skinhead.I can remember Dresses like that being in a Dark/Bottle Green and the Shoes being a light Tan(shaded).My Wife looked at the Photo and said Della may have bought the Shoes in the West End(She can remember similar ones in Russell and Bromley).Susie also maintains that there was an offshot of Mods/Skinheads who wore West End Styles(rather than Ivy/Squire Shop Style).She worked in Bond Street in `68/69.This tallies with an experience I had,about `69 when myself and my Mates went to where my Sister was Boarding.She and Her Mates were having problems with some Greasers,who hung about the School.When we got there we found the local Boys(what we thought would be Skins)turned out in different Clothing .They had their Hair longer,French influence Clothing,coloured Shirts and wore Loafers.These were not Mods who were out of date.This preceeded the "Smooth"Look by at least 2 years.[/quote]
    I should have put Lilley and Skinners-just been told off![​IMG]
     
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    Well your mates are wrong as we can see from the pics, I had that type of top myself back then, And I have a couple of John Smedley now.

    My main criticism, as far as I care, regarding many of those revivalist types: being dogmatic whilst not having a clue...

    What's our message to the revival skins?
    Do we even have one?
     
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    Thank-you, Mr. Brown - I will have to buy YOU a drink next time I see you!
    Race you to the Bar,Little Queenie!
     
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    The Mods wore the Golf version of the Harrington(without the knitted cuffs and waist).If you watch RSG(vol.1,I have a pirate version),you have two of them wearing them-with cycling shirts-dancing.

    Saves me the trouble of getting in touch [​IMG]

    When we got there we found the local Boys(what we thought would be Skins)turned out in different Clothing .They had their Hair longer,French influence Clothing,coloured Shirts and wore Loafers.These were not Mods who were out of date.This preceeded the "Smooth"Look by at least 2 years.

    Fascinating stuff Colin, great post again!
     
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    When we got there we found the local Boys(what we thought would be Skins)turned out in different Clothing .They had their Hair longer,French influence Clothing,coloured Shirts and wore Loafers.These were not Mods who were out of date.This preceeded the "Smooth"Look by at least 2 years.
    Here's Lloyd an ex-mod this photo comes from 1969, he said at the time, post-mod, he and the local boys was wearing french-influenced clothing. Anything like this Colin? [​IMG]
     

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