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Im having a late 20s crisis never mind a mid life crisis!

The dr martens 101 actually look quite nice in choc brown, are they worth 125 quid tho?

I like those. But yeah, £125 seems steep. Made in England?
 

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Probably not, haven't got them in my size anyway, i wouldn't mind a pair of docs but they are a bit expensive for what they are. Still got my 6 eye boots from the 70s and 2 pair of monkey boots which are going strong still
 

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Im having a late 20s crisis never mind a mid life crisis!

The dr martens 101 actually look quite nice in choc brown, are they worth 125 quid tho?

They're nice, but be aware the 101 run about half a size bigger for some reason, whereas the classic DM range (1460 etc) runs a bit small imo. Make sure the seller has a return policy in place if getting them off eBay?
 

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I was actually told all there boots run large, from an official dm employee, so its confusing
 

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similar to the other brown ones, and they have them my size, and 40 quid off, hopefully have them my size next week when its payday.

 

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Sorry I stand corrected, I never knew that about the collars, only the trousers. Saw him on a TV prog once talking about it.
I don't think that John Stephen ever got the recognition he deserved. His achievements seem to be underated and almost forgotten but at least he was well paid for his efforts. .
 

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I don't think that John Stephen ever got the recognition he deserved. His achievements seem to be underated and almost forgotten but at least he was well paid for his efforts. .
Aye I remember a pic of him next to his Rolls Royce when he was in his early twenties. There’s a blue plaque dedicated to him in Carnaby Street but the first time I went there maybe 1980 there was a long thin sign on the side of a building still pointing the way. It’s not there any more but I have a pic of it somewhere.
I reckon the very first Mod Stylists may have had a conflicting view of JS - on one hand he made acquiring decent tackle a lot easier, but on the other his democratizing of the look made it available to a lot more people which may have stepped on their sense of elitism.
 

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Didn't John Stephen start out at Vince's ?
I think he started out in a shop in Newburgh Street or one of the other adjacent streets but had to move (fire?) and the rents were cheap in Carnaby as it was just a back alley. There was a massive industrial building g taking up half of one side and a tobacconists (which was still there when I first went!) but one by one most places were turned over into boutiques as word spread - and Stephen owned half the street!
 

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Aye I remember a pic of him next to his Rolls Royce when he was in his early twenties. There’s a blue plaque dedicated to him in Carnaby Street but the first time I went there maybe 1980 there was a long thin sign on the side of a building still pointing the way. It’s not there any more but I have a pic of it somewhere.
I reckon the very first Mod Stylists may have had a conflicting view of JS - on one hand he made acquiring decent tackle a lot easier, but on the other his democratizing of the look made it available to a lot more people which may have stepped on their sense of elitism.
Aside from Mod , Stephen was part of the British Sixties fashion thing as much as Quant, in my opinion .
Those early Mods you speak of would have been most likely wearing European clothes , Stephen designed and made fashionable clothes in this country and per his tall collars and low waist designs , was making what the market wanted . A good business man if nothing else . However, he never did get all those letters after his name like Quant did ,l wonder why. .
 

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