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    the Mikkel Rude boots use (which are a remake of the Hawkins Astronaut boot, the last is slightly sleeker and there are some minor cosmetic differences to a regular DM boot)

    the Capper model was an 80s boot so it does have some history, tho I'd never seen it before until the reissue. I did see pics from a guy that had a pair he'd owned since the 80s and it's pretty much exactly the same now as then.


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    Thanks for the history and comparisons. Been eyeing that Mikkel Rude boot. Looks like most details are shared with the 1460 except the trademark yellow sole stitch? (and a deeper color?)

    GS, I can remember lads using black polish on red boots to get a kind of faux ox-blood finish. No kidding.

    yea that was how I was first taught to polish cherry reds

    Me too. Coming out of the later-gen '80s scene, that was old wisdom by then. However, the MiE 1460s don't take polish for a long time due to the hard leather type. I'll need patience...esp. since they get worn at most a dozen times a year. My days of wearing the same boots every day are long gone [​IMG]
     
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    Been eyeing that Mikkel Rude boot. Looks like most details are shared with the 1460 except the trademark yellow sole stitch? (and a deeper color?)

    However, the MiE 1460s don't take polish for a long time due to the hard leather type.


    if you have an OCD eye for that kind of detail, it looks very different from the 1460. First the last isnt as bulbous, and the front quarters/vamp has a different shape. The 1460 curves back and down, the "Astronauts" goes straight down at a smaller angle. If anything the boot looks "slimmer" than a 1460, not that it's slim by any means. And it's 11 eyelet of course.

    yea the MIE leather is kinda dull when new, and takes a few weeks of good hard polishing before the shine starts to take on, but once it does it mirror shines very easily ime
     
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    I'm a bit curious about these "grand-dad boots". What are they exactly, Man-of-Mystery?

    Dunno what else to call them. Old geezers back then could sometimes be seen wearing fairly tall lace-up boots with suits, hence the name - a throwback to working class dress in the first half of the 20c. Some guys in the late 60s went to classy bootmakers and got boots made up to order.

    The nearest I have seen in fairly recent times was a boot made for riders of BMW Cruisers. I happen to have a pair. (Apologies for not having polished these in a while)

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    The "grandad boots" would have had a straight-across toecap.

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    if you have an OCD eye for that kind of detail, it looks very different from the 1460. First the last isnt as bulbous, and the front quarters/vamp has a different shape. The 1460 curves back and down, the "Astronauts" goes straight down at a smaller angle. If anything the boot looks "slimmer" than a 1460, not that it's slim by any means. And it's 11 eyelet of course.

    yea the MIE leather is kinda dull when new, and takes a few weeks of good hard polishing before the shine starts to take on, but once it does it mirror shines very easily ime


    Jason, have you seen some of the other colours in the Solvair line? I'm curious how oxblood, cherry and burgundy differ: http://www.nps-solovair.co.uk/page_shoes_solovair.html
     
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    Jason, have you seen some of the other colours in the Solvair line? I'm curious how oxblood, cherry and burgundy differ: http://www.nps-solovair.co.uk/page_shoes_solovair.html

    the problem with those terms is they get used interchangeably so I'm not even 100% certain what shoe uses what anymore

    But here are the solovair colors I've owned/own:

    -cherry red, on a pair of 8i boots. Similar to DM vintage oxblood but with more red
    -oxblood, what I assume JtG uses on the monkey boot, also on a pair of 5i shoes I had. Great color, has that deep burgundy shade that I think is the best of the bunch (Looks like this is the shade the Mikkel Rude boots are)
    -burgundy....what I think my Loake Royals with airware sole made by Solovair is. Color is similar to oxblood but maybe slightly more red

    then I have the Solovair "southerner" boot which is its own color, similar to oxblood but slightly lighter tone and more red than that. There's something about the Southerner color that is my favorite among all the different shades.
     
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    Colors I found. The first two are Solovair, the third is Loake. cherry [​IMG] Burgundy [​IMG] Ox (loake) [​IMG] Or for comparison, links to Solovair cherry and oxblood I've been hunting for an ox brogue shoe for ages. I'm so glad you guys reminded me to check Solovair and Loake. Get Smart - are Loake and Solovair sized the same as DM? I find the 1953 MiE last is pretty slim for me in thicker socks, but the standard DM last sizes are spot-on. Can you advise?
     
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    Get Smart - are Loake and Solovair sized the same as DM? I find the 1953 MiE last is pretty slim for me in thicker socks, but the standard DM last sizes are spot-on. Can you advise?

    that burgundy is "burgundy ruboff" where it has the fake antique'ing on it.

    I have those Loakes and it's much redder than that pic IRL

    I dont get people who think DMs run "true to size" as I've ALWAYS found them a bit smaller. That said, I think Solovair/Loake run TTS. So i get 7UK in Solovair/Loake, but am always 8UK in DM. If i wear 7UK DM my toes feel like they're right against the front and get squashed as I walk. But most seem to feel DM runs TTS so YMMV.

    and after taking another look, I think my Southerner oxblood is the same as the regular Solovair oxblood and any shade difference is probably a product of batch variance other than being a different color.
     
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    I agree on DM running a bit small, but I've also found some of the foreign-made stuff like the 8053 using modern lasts seem to also run noticeably big. The MiE models (using an original 1953 last I think) are noted as being narrower, and I feel that for sure - and also that they run smaller.

    I'm wondering if you or anyone here has a sense of the quality and workmanship of the Loake Brogue. That's exactly what I've been looking for and strangely, the model only seems to be distributed by this British Boot Company. Thoughts?
     
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    I'm wondering if you or anyone here has a sense of the quality and workmanship of the Loake Brogue. That's exactly what I've been looking for and strangely, the model only seems to be distributed by this British Boot Company. Thoughts?

    i have that brogue. It's a good shoe, fits TTS, and it's made specifically for BBC which is why you wont see it anywhere else. My one critique is how the leather aged around the creases, which I didnt like, developed a lighter color to the leather rather than a self color around the creases. Altho as soon as I started using Cherry Blossom oxblood polish on it, it self colored the lighter creases really well and looked much better. Quality-wise, it's on par with any other similar shoe, I think the leather is a tad thinner than what you'd find on the MIE 1461 shoe and imo not as good quality, a bit cheaper feeling to be honest, but has never stopped me from wearing them.
     
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    A Solvair re-issue of their 1969 Astronaut Boot:

    http://mikkelrude.co.uk/products/10-...ude-1969-boot/

    Looks to be a truer oxblood colour than the JtG/Solvair colab.


    I pulled the trigger on these, not like I need another pair of "bovver boots" but whatever. I'm glad I did, it's a great pair of boots. I like that the style references the boots from 1970 and while I've found Solovair fit and comfort varying quite a bit from shoe to shoe, these are the best feeling/fitting Solovairs I have. Instantly comfortable and already feel broken in after a day. The fit is TTS and the sleeker last and lower toebox make these a bit more elegant, if this kind of boot can ever be described as such. I wasnt sure if I'd like the 11i holes, as that was my biggest opposition to these but turns out I dont mind at all.
     
  12. Man-of-Mystery

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    I found some more photos. They're crappy, but they illustrate a few things. They're from 1968, which is still the transition from "hard mods" to skins.

    No1: Never could get my Levis to hang right, even with braces! From the top:- Aviator shades, Ben Sherman, M&S cardy (yes - we used to wear them, AND we sometimes used to fasten them like that and stick our hands into the pockets like that!), Levis, black boots of unknown brand.
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    No2: Yes, Levis jackets weren't unknown, even down South at that time.
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    No.3: I certainly loved those aviators! The colour of the photo came out funny, but that is actually a dark green Harrington worn with Levi cords.
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    No.4: Myself with "Cockney Bob" (so called because he came down from the North, picked up a London accent, went back to the North and everyone up there assumed he was a cockney). We're both wearing mohair suits, and each of us has a Ben Sherman with a matching pocket handkerchief. The shoes are brown brogues (me) and brown Oxfords (Bob).
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    The other one I found of Bob and me didn't turn out. I may have more photos somewhere, but they'll be buried in the loft space. I'll let you see them if and when I find them.
     
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    I'm just getting caught up here. This thread has taken a jump. Thanks for posting all the pics and flashbacks. MoM your hair was a masterpiece!- almost looks fake. Amazing.
     
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    nice pics MoM! +1 on the good hair

    did you turn your Levis jacket into bleachers in that mid photo? Could be the light but it almost looks like you did. Am sure I've never seen pics of a bleached Levis jacket. I know someone was asking a while ago if bleachers were around in the late 60s or if it was a "new breed" 80s trend...I'd always assumed it was an 80s thing as I'd never seen anyone wearing it from 60s pics
     
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    *shifting my wig a little* No, no, it's real, I assure you! [​IMG]

    Re bleaching Levis: Yes that was around then too. It was a trick done by people who couldn't wait for the denim to fade naturally, and generally it didn't work all that well. At one time I had three pairs of Levis - one still dark blue, one fading, another bleached and streaky (overcooked). I didn't have that jacket for long - I think I passed it to Bob (or he passed it to me and I passed it to someone else - it's a bloody long time ago!).
     

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