speaking of Bass loafers.....we were down in San Diego at a bass outlet store in Carlsbad and they were having an insane deal, buy any 1 pair get a 2nd pair free, or buy 1 pair at 60% off. wow, that is a good deal, my missus got herself a pair of classic burgundy penny loafers at 60% off. would have gotten me a pair but already have several loafers, Bass included. and personally I like tassles with a beefroll and kickstay (i think that's what it's called) at the back heel. But NO kiltie like the Loake "Brighton" loafer.