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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Spirit of 69, Nov 19, 2008.

  1. Man-of-Mystery

    Man-of-Mystery Senior member

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    Fcuk that!
     
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    You got that right!

    Well, almost! :D :D :D
     
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    As an action film it is really good. It is the historical accuracy - or rather slant that I object to -

    Elliot Gould single handedly building a Bailey Bridge to keep the operation on track. (People there at the time don't remember any American involvement)

    The film focuses on the crossing of the River Waal at Nijmegen by US troops under fire in small boats but omits to say that they had failed to take it on schedule in the first place. In fact, the Americans had failed to take a number of bridges en route and this is a major reason why XXX Corps were held up. To its credit, the series 'Band Of Brothers' acknowledges this.

    The Germans find a full set of plans for the operation in a crashed glider. Those plans should never have been taken on the campaign.The inference, just like the unwillingness to act on intelligence, the faulty radios, the arrogant attitude and the incessant tea and biscuits is that it must be the fault of the British but in reality it was an American glider and those plans enabled the Germans to successfully counteract the operation.

    This is not an anti-American rant. I have been to all of these places and know how brave the men of the 101 and 82 airborne must have been. It is the portrayal of the British as conceited bumbling incompetents that grates. It was a joint operation and jointly it was unsuccessful.
     
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    Sorry, I'm drifting quite a bit off topic there......


    I enjoyed This is England' as I didn't relate it to 'our' culture, so didn't judge the clothes or the style in which they were worn, I just thought some of it was really funny - especially Woody. I could probably relate to his speech pattern! I think it is set in Nottingham, but some of it is filmed in Grimsby.
     
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    Well done for doing the trip to see the place , on the ground . .

    What I still don't fully understand is that despite XXX Corps only being a few days late , they were unable to push forward and end the war that bit earlier . I remember hearing that there were more casualties after that period and the end of hostilities , than there had been in the war , up to that point of Market Garden . My pal , whose dad was captured , blamed Monty , wholeheartedly for what happen to his father and the failure of the operation . Personally , I feel that the Nazis just , were not , the spent force that they had been perceived to have been , prior to Market Garden . .
     
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    :D :D
     
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    Once the Germans knew of the plan they reinforced the area. It was months later when the Canadians were finally able to take Arnhem.

    WAY off topic but the failure to break into Germany in September and the need then to consolidate in parts of Holland allowed the Germans to counter-attack in the Ardennes in December (The Battle of the Bulge) This cost the allies a lot of casualties and the Germans fought hard thereafter to keep them out of Germany.
     
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    There was a Mod Revivalist my way who got himself a Vespa. Trouble was being about 6 foot 8, his centre of gravity was too high and he fell off whenever he turned a corner. He finished up getting an Escort Van; whenever his pack of Mods went out on a run he'd be right behind them in his rusty green van.
    Talking of which I feel sorry for Mods who actually came from the likes Brighton.
    I know not all mods had scooters, but at Bank Holiday Weekends half the fun must have been the ride down there. Im guessing the local lads with scooters must have just gone round and round the one-way system all morning
     
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  10. Man-of-Mystery

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    Well, when I lived in Blackpool we had the Mecca, a branch of the Wheel, and a couple of coffee bars that had soul jukeboxes. Where would we go? :D
     
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    You could always gone up the road to Lytham St Anne's? Know its not a walk on the wild side but they do some jolly nice cakes in the Nell Gwynn Tea Room!!
     
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    Wrong forum ?
     
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    More of a slight diversion.
     
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    Pretty Much what happened to me (Although I was already a Young Skinhead of sorts, but hadn't a clue). I Thought I was the only one, until I crossed paths with a Few lads from around the North East. They were all in their 20's (ish) and I'll have been 12 or so. If I hadn't have met these lads (Some on here) I'd have never learned anything about the original scene, and there is no chance I'd have been a Skinhead for as Long as I was. I certainly wouldn't have been the Superstar DJ I became [​IMG].

    Me Mam always knew where I was (within reason) and Who I was with. Always taken care off, and always looked out for. Mostly friends I'm still good mates with now.

    This was the Early 90's. So stranger things have happened.

    I know its a little off subject, but there ya go.
     
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  16. Clouseau

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    Some evidence of girls in shirt & braces
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    This one could be "2nd wave"? Can't tell :
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    I wouldn't go that far [​IMG] but just a little insight. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  18. Man-of-Mystery

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    'War films' were part of the culture we were brought up with in the 1960s. Most of our dads had been in WW2 (e.g. my dad - RAF corporal sparks in N Africa, Italy & Yugoslavia).

    Two things our generation used to get from the previous:

    "A spell of National Service would do you good!"

    "You never lived through a war. We did!"
     
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    It's not the first time we digress on the thread and i can understand it, it's just that there is maybe a bit too many digressions/ or off topic - off timeline discussions for a while, and i noticed that quite a lot of the old members seem to have disappear. A bit fed up maybe ? I noticed too that a lot of the recent members didn't take the time to read at least a little of the thread before they came in, so all the recent subjects have already been discussed at length. Just my personal opinion of course. Cheers
     
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    Continuing with the diversion, whenever you see clips of military recruits there's normally footage of them getting their feathers trimmed- ending up with a barnet not dissimilar to skinhead- ala Richard Gere in an Officer and a Gentleman. During National Service it's almost cliched to see some ex Teddy Boys prized quiff being shawn off by some sadistic sod in uniform.
    How bout WW2? I don't remember my grandad saying he had gorgeous hair before the call up, then some sod chopped it all off. Even making allowances for most blokes having shortish hair circa 1940, the skinhead type military haircut didn't seem to be in vogue quite yet
     

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