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MLB 2009 - 2010 Season Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by ama, Mar 9, 2010.

  1. thekunk07

    thekunk07 Senior member

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    i will bet a ball that reyes' thyroid issue is due to gh and t3.
     
  2. StephenHero

    StephenHero Senior member

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    Gordon broke his thumb. He's out for awhile. He's been disappointing. The Royals locked up Zack for a long term contract before last season so they've got him at a great value. But Zack is notoriously weird and prone to fall off the deep end at any time. If you told me today that Zack Greinke would be managing a bowling alley within two season I'd believe you. They won't trade him unless the Yankees, Mets, or Red Sox give up their entire farm systems. The owner would get run out if they did. The Royals are a power hitting corner-outfielder, a competent shortstop and a decent third starter away from the playoffs. Hell could freeze sometime in the next 2-3 years if the owner spent a bit more money to acquire players. It seems we're the team where great players mature before going somewhere else (Beltran, Damon, Dye, Cone) or where washed up players go to collect final paychecks (see: entire rosters 2004-2008)

    I do think our home uniforms are some of the greatest in baseball. That's what really matters.
     
  3. Dakota rube

    Dakota rube Senior member

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    I meant the day it was announced.

    I'm not following you. But the deal was a broad-daylight robbery by the Rays.

    November 28, 2007: Traded by the Tampa Bay Devil Rays with Brendan Harris and Jason Pridie to the Minnesota Twins for Eduardo Morlan (minors), Jason Bartlett and Matt Garza.
     
  4. Slopho

    Slopho Senior member

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    Gordon broke his thumb. He's out for awhile. He's been disappointing. The Royals locked up Zack for a long term contract before last season so they've got him at a great value. But Zack is notoriously weird and prone to fall off the deep end at any time. If you told me today that Zack Greinke would be managing a bowling alley within two season I'd believe you. They won't trade him unless the Yankees, Mets, or Red Sox give up their entire farm systems. The owner would get run out if they did. The Royals are a power hitting corner-outfielder, a competent shortstop and a decent third starter away from the playoffs. Hell could freeze sometime in the next 2-3 years if the owner spent a bit more money to acquire players. It seems we're the team where great players mature before going somewhere else (Beltran, Damon, Dye, Cone) or where washed up players go to collect final paychecks (see: entire rosters 2004-2008)

    I do think our home uniforms are some of the greatest in baseball. That's what really matters.


    All of this is true. Also I would add that Kauffman stadium is the most beautiful stadium in baseball. Isn't it Jose Rosado who is managing a bowling alley now? One of the best pitched games I had ever seen was KC vs. Baltimore. Jose Rosado vs. Sidney Ponson. The game ended in a 1-0 victory for the O's(low hits and walk to boot). The only reason I remember this game is because in my fantasy league I had both guys starting.
     
  5. closetmess

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    Well..might as well ask SF to recommend me 5 keepers for fantasy...

    Dunn
    Hamilton
    Pence
    B. Roberts
    Rios
    M. Tejada
    Wells
    Burnett
    Kershaw
     
  6. Slopho

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    Well..might as well ask SF to recommend me 5 keepers for fantasy...

    Dunn
    Hamilton
    Pence
    B. Roberts
    Rios
    M. Tejada
    Wells
    Burnett
    Kershaw


    B. Roberts - Gets on base a lot and will have a good opportunity to score a lot of runs with both Jones and Markakis hitting behind him

    Pence - Plays in a band box

    M. Tejada - Has moved from one band box to another.

    Kershaw - I like his K potential

    ...and I guess Hamilton.
     
  7. StephenHero

    StephenHero Senior member

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    Isn't it Jose Rosado who is managing a bowling alley now?
    Probably. Most former Royals don't make enough in the bigs to retire on. [​IMG]. That guy had a beautiful motion though. The funny thing is that Greinke has had two good starts in spring training and everyone in Kansas City is so excited. He pitched 3 scoreless innings this week and it led the local news. People are completely aware that it was possible he came back and just completely lost it. He still might. He's baseball's version of Ricky Williams. The K is a nice stadium, but many people are frustrated they didn't build one downtown. KC's downtown is undergoing a transformation like Baltimore has had and it would have helped momentum ala Camden. The dickbag owner knew he could get state money to renovate but he'd have to spend his own money for a downtown stadium. [​IMG] The guy is the biggest cheapskate in baseball and the value of the franchise has more than tripled since 2000 when he bought it and he's put next to nothing into it from a player or stadium standpoint. I think they made a movie about it starring Charlie Sheen at some point.
     
  8. kwiteaboy

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    The Royals are in stiff competition with the Mets for "worst-run organization in professional sports", but I think the Royals are winning.
     
  9. BossTweed

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    ^^ Prior to MacPhail, the O's certainly would've been in the running.
     
  10. StephenHero

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    The Mets are worse if general management is the metric.

    Mets Payrolls (MLB rank)

    2005 $101,000,000 (3)
    2006: $101,000,000 (5)
    2007: $120,000,000 (4)
    2008: $138,000,000 (3)
    2009: $149,000,000 (2)

    $609,000,000 total

    Royals Payrolls

    2005: $36,000,000 (29)
    2006: $47,000,000 (26)
    2007: $67,000,000 (22)
    2008: $58,000,000 (24)
    2009: $81,000,000 (15)

    $289,000,000 total

    Wins

    Mets
    2005: 83
    2006: 97
    2007: 88
    2008: 89
    2009: 72

    429 total

    Royals

    2005: 56
    2006: 62
    2007: 69
    2008: 75
    2009: 65

    327 total

    Mets: $1,419,000 per win
    Royals: $883,000 per win
     
  11. Slopho

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    i will bet a ball that reyes' thyroid issue is due to gh and t3.

    I said it last year and I'll say it this year. Blow....this....team....up, and start over. Trade everyone not named Wright...yes that includes Reyes.

    The Royals are in stiff competition with the Mets for "worst-run organization in professional sports", but I think the Royals are winning.

    Two words, Pittsburgh Pirates.
     
  12. BossTweed

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    Mets: $1,419,000 per win
    Royals: $883,000 per win

    Don't like the logic. Certainly there is increasing marginal cost of wins.
     
  13. kwiteaboy

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    Two words, Pittsburgh Pirates.

    The Pirates have some reason for hope with Huntington. Very small, but some.
     
  14. Slopho

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    The Pirates have some reason for hope with Huntington. Very small, but some.

    They have a decent core. I would say Doumit and McCutchen (Andrew) look really good, but the sleeper is Garrett Jones. He's going to have a monster year.

    I just meant regarding worst run franchises.
     
  15. StephenHero

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    Don't like the logic. Certainly there is increasing marginal cost of wins.

    A better metric might be comparing payroll rank vs. regular season wins rank, but that makes the Mets' ineptitude even more lopsided.
     
  16. BossTweed

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    A better metric might be comparing payroll rank vs. regular season wins rank, but that makes the Mets' ineptitude even more lopsided.
    As it should be. I couldn't stand the Red Sox until they won the WS for one reason. The Yankees spent 3x as much as the average team, but at least they were winning. The Red Sox spent 2x as much, but they couldn't win; it's like they sucked at cheating. The Mets find themselves in similar circumstances.
     
  17. LawrenceMD

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    As it should be. I couldn't stand the Red Sox until they won the WS for one reason. The Yankees spent 3x as much as the average team, but at least they were winning. The Red Sox spent 2x as much, but they couldn't win; it's like they sucked at cheating. The Mets find themselves in similar circumstances.
    yeah the sawx of the late 90's early 2000's were just sad. they'd sign someone big that was actually worth it then skimp on the the complimentary players that mattered. then they'd make some sort of reactionary signing (for a washed up star) and overpay and then act cheap again. yup... just like the recent mets. the phillies had a chance to be the best national league team... ever (over 3 years at least)... if they just spend 10M more per year and kept Lee. if anything the phillies should of learned from the last WS that if they had that 2nd ace it would of made a world of difference. the two ace system with that offense would of been sick.
     
  18. ama

    ama Senior member

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    yeah the sawx of the late 90's early 2000's were just sad. they'd sign someone big that was actually worth it then skimp on the the complimentary players that mattered. then they'd make some sort of reactionary signing (for a washed up star) and overpay and then act cheap again. yup... just like the recent mets.

    the phillies had a chance to be the best national league team... ever (over 3 years at least)... if they just spend 10M more per year and kept Lee.

    if anything the phillies should of learned from the last WS that if they had that 2nd ace it would of made a world of difference.

    the two ace system with that offense would of been sick.


    They can always get one mid-season like last year.
     
  19. Slopho

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    The Twins are looking at making Liriano the closer. He's just about to enter Kerry Wood territory.
     
  20. Dakota rube

    Dakota rube Senior member

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    ^That actually might not be a horrible idea.
     

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