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Military Boot Camp for Civilians?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by tiecollector, Apr 1, 2008.

  1. tiecollector

    tiecollector Senior member

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    When the war started I almost joined the military but for reasons I won't go into here I'm glad I didn't. I would, however, still like to experience boot camp, especially a Navy SEAL type thing. Is there anything available for civilians? Will the military let you visit just to kick your ass for a few weeks?
     


  2. Nonk

    Nonk Senior member

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    Being ex-military I am rather suspicious of these things.

    Why would you want to do such a thing?

    If you feel you will get some direct benefit by doing it then ok, but these things usually attract more than a few Walter Mitty wannabe types who like to revel in the association with the military and the kudos their (the military's) training earns them (which is only that, training, it is a means to an end) but don't wish to make a sufficient commitment to join and who obviously are never tested for real.


    I find it a bit distasteful myself.
     


  3. GQgeek

    GQgeek Senior member

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    It's called the reserves. ;p

    And I doubt any civilian program would put you through a similar level of distress as a SEAL program would because they'd be worried about civil lawsuits.
     


  4. Violinist

    Violinist Senior member

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    When the war started I almost joined the military but for reasons I won't go into here I'm glad I didn't. I would, however, still like to experience boot camp, especially a Navy SEAL type thing. Is there anything available for civilians? Will the military let you visit just to kick your ass for a few weeks?

    most of the people in the armed forces couldn't complete SEAL training. What the fuck makes you think any company, government or otherwise, would let you try it, fail miserably, then sue them?

    That being said in Russia they'd certainly do it for a price.
     


  5. Concordia

    Concordia Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    There was an article in one of the papers about 2 weeks ago about independent contractors who will do a kick-your-ass thing for prospective brides who want to lose weight and look better in their strapless gowns. About 6 weeks, reasonably full days with nasty stuff guaranteed. Not SEAL caliber, obviously, but helpful to the average urbanite.
     


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    Droog Senior member

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  7. globetrotter

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    1. why not join the reserves?

    2. seals train for something like 18-20 months. don't fool yourself

    3. I think that the civillians play camps like you are looking for are geared towards allowing civillians who were too pussy to enlist to say "hey, I coui;d have been a seal is I wanted to, but I didn't agree with Bush's politics. but I did do a 5 day seal like training"

    4. boot camp is about a lot of stuff that you simply won't get it you are a paid tourist. it is a great deal more demanding than you can imagine.
     


  8. Fuuma

    Fuuma Franchouillard Modasse

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    I really don't see what you would gain by going through this ordeal without facing the psychological impact of a possible trial by fire in case of conflicts. Just hit the gym and you'll get physical results reflective of your commitment.

    Note: I'm just saying; I have never nor would ever consider enlisting, major ideological and psychological change notwistanding.
     


  9. RyJ Maduro

    RyJ Maduro Senior member

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    It's called the reserves. ;p

    Hey now...[​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     


  10. johnapril

    johnapril Senior member

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    I wouldn't want to be a trash collector either.
     


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    Omar1223 Senior member

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    i kind of see where the OP is coming from. he just wants to know if he could have handled boot camp.

    to answer the question, at the gym i go to there is a class taught by an ex-military instructor that has a boot camp type class. i mean its a couple hours a week but its rough as hell from what i have heard.
     


  12. tiecollector

    tiecollector Senior member

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    Being ex-military I am rather suspicious of these things. Why would you want to do such a thing? If you feel you will get some direct benefit by doing it then ok, but these things usually attract more than a few Walter Mitty wannabe types who like to revel in the association with the military and the kudos their (the military's) training earns them (which is only that, training, it is a means to an end) but don't wish to make a sufficient commitment to join and who obviously are never tested for real. I find it a bit distasteful myself.
    It is all hypothetical but you are right, making the commitment is the hardest part so in a way it is pointless. It is more curiosity than anything. I think witnessing such a thing will give some more respect for the military, but for others it would just boost their ego like globetrotter pointed out. I really don't mean to be distasteful because I support the military as much as anyone. The reserves are something I've seriously considered but I'm pretty sure it would be almost the same thing as active duty if I enlisted right now. I'm better off going into some heavy martial arts, which is what I was going to do anyways. I'll also ad that I think every single citizen should at least go through basic training because it is just a good idea for citizens to have some idea of what to expect and have some chance in hell of coping if we are ever invaded.
     


  13. RyJ Maduro

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    The reserves are something I've seriously considered but I'm pretty sure it would be almost the same thing as active duty if I enlisted right now.

    Definately depends on your MOS (job) and the type of unit you're in.
     


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    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m..._19211170/pg_1

    "After just 11 days of basic training, former heavyweight champion Riddick Bowe bowed out of the Marines.

    Bowe, who was granted' age, weight and dependent waivers so he could enlist, told his drill instructor and battalion commander that the regimen was too strict, that he missed his family and that he wished he'd enlisted when he was younger. Bowe, 29, had only gone through three days of physical training before he realized that he could not cut it at basic training in Parris Island, SC. A recruit can be asked to be dismissed at any time.

    Bowe made a three-year commitment to the Marines as an active reserve (JET, Feb. 17). He was scheduled to stay at Parris Island for three months and was to serve a total of three years in the active reserve and then five years in the inactive reserve."
     


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    johnapril Senior member

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    I'll also ad that I think every single citizen should at least go through basic training because it is just a good idea for citizens to have some idea of what to expect and have some chance in hell of coping if we are ever invaded.

    Do what you want, but this line of thinking got me to seriously wondering. If you believe this sort of thing, I would propose a tougher path for you than the military or the martial arts and that would be a nice long sit in a vipassana meditation center. I think 3 months in Rangoon would shape your mind up nicely, serve you with more pain than you could ever imagine in the SEALS, and all you'd have to do is sit for 20 hours a day. You think I'm joking? I dare you. I dare you to even consider it.
     


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