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Midnight blue v Charcoal

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by pauper, Feb 9, 2007.

  1. CommercialDoc

    CommercialDoc Senior member

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    please read the original post. he is having a suit made for his wedding.

    Though I am not the original poster, I too will be having my suit/tuxedo made for my wedding. I have my business suits made by Adrian Jules and will have them make my wedding wear as well.

    So the RTW limitation should not be a problem.
     


  2. dah328

    dah328 Senior member

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    Sorry to have hijacked this thread but the midnight blue caught my interest.

    Does this mean a semi-formal suit/tuxedo can be made of midnight blue fabric and be equally appropriate for an evening wedding as a black fabric? The midnight blue can actually be as dark or darker than black fabric? Do you still have satin/grosgrain on the lapels and is it still black?

    If so, what is the forum consensus on the look of a black tuxedo v. a midnight blue tuxedo?

    There's no such thing as a suit/tuxedo; it's either one or the other. A tuxedo in midnight blue has satin/grosgrain lapels like any other tuxedo and is no more or less formal than a black tuxedo. I have a midnight blue tuxedo and the blue is so dark that you basically cannot tell that it is not black. It has a slightly different sheen to it, but that's about it.

    A midnight blue suit is just that -- a suit in a really dark blue that looks black.
     


  3. Jovan

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    There's no such thing as a tuxedo either. ... It's called a dinner jacket or dinner suit! [​IMG] Yes, I know I'm being anal.
     


  4. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    Should the DB vest match the charcoal suit? Or is a white vest appropriate for wedding?
    Matching is easier and safer. I suppose you could wear an off white linen odd vest with a charcoal suit. It's not exactly "canonical", but so what. However, you will find such a vest to be of limited usefulness after the wedding.

    A two-piece suit (no vest) of which the coat is DB.

    A classic wedding tie is black and white or silver in a small woven pattern.
     


  5. HalfCanvas

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    please read the original post. he is having a suit made for his wedding.

    Yes, but I thought there was another poster in the thread who was also looking for a wedding suit but did not imply that he'd be going custom.
     


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    Yes, but I thought there was another poster in the thread who was also looking for a wedding suit but did not imply that he'd be going custom.
    i didn't realize there had been an official hijacking. continue...
     


  7. The Happy Stroller

    The Happy Stroller Senior member

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    You should seriously consider wearing Morning Dress for a daytime wedding and full formal Evening Dress (i.e., White Tie) for an evening wedding.

    Black is considered more formal, so black shoes are more suitable for a wedding.[​IMG]

    I'm having a suit made for my wedding. I am trying to decide between midnight blue and charcoal gray--any thoughts? Which is more formal, which is more versatile, etc?

    Also, if I go with midnight blue, are black shoes appropriate?
     


  8. The Happy Stroller

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    You should seriously consider wearing full formal Evening Dress (i.e., White Tie) for an evening wedding.[​IMG]

    I am also getting married and have been debating between a midnight blue suit and semi-formalwear (black tuxedo, single breasted, single button, grograin lapels, etc.).
    ...<snip>...
     


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    The only thing is that getting everyone else to wear morning formal is a Huge Pain In the Arse if your family and friends aren't in the well to do society. Most everyone will only own a business suit, and I wouldn't want them to rent from places like Men's Wearhouse. Being the only one in a morning suit is kind of weird, too.
     


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    Will Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I am also getting married and have been debating between a midnight blue suit and semi-formalwear (black tuxedo, single breasted, single button, grograin lapels, etc.).

    Can anyone point me to some photos of a formal rendition of a midnight blue suit? I hear this style mentioned frequently and am intrigued but have not been able to find examples of its formality/suitability for an evening wedding.


    The most formal cut for a lounge suit is single breasted peak lapel with a one or two button closing. Side pockets without flaps. Single breasted vest, just like a dinner jacket, is fine. Never any silk facings.

    This is the same cut that would normally be found on a semi-formal dinner jacket. It's worn during the day in situations where a stroller might have been worn in the past, and should be charcoal gray for day wear or midnight blue for evening.
     


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    The most formal cut for a lounge suit is single breasted peak lapel with a one or two button closing. Side pockets without flaps. Single breasted vest, just like a dinner jacket, is fine. Never any silk facings.
    nooooo!!!!
     


  12. Will

    Will Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    nooooo!!!!

    Oscar Lenius, A Well Dressed Gentlemans Pocket Guide
     


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    There's no such thing as a suit/tuxedo; it's either one or the other. A tuxedo in midnight blue has satin/grosgrain lapels like any other tuxedo and is no more or less formal than a black tuxedo. I have a midnight blue tuxedo and the blue is so dark that you basically cannot tell that it is not black. It has a slightly different sheen to it, but that's about it.

    A midnight blue suit is just that -- a suit in a really dark blue that looks black.



    My understanding from my SF research is that a lounge suit is a type of suit, a tuxedo is a semi-formal type of suit, tails and white tie make a formal suit etc. By writing suit/tuxedo, I was referring to that semi-formal type of suit. Please correct me if my understanding of "suit" is incorrect.[​IMG]
     


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    Will Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    My understanding from my SF research is that a lounge suit is a type of suit, a tuxedo is a semi-formal type of suit, tails and white tie make a formal suit etc. By writing suit/tuxedo, I was referring to that semi-formal type of suit. Please correct me if my understanding of "suit" is incorrect.[​IMG]

    Then midnight blue is as appropriate as black, and should have black satin or grosgrain lapel facings on the jacket and a stripe down the side of the trousers.You may also want cloth covered buttons and a bit of silk on the side pockets.
     


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    Despos Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I have several friends that were married in Italy. They wore worsted, dark charcoal suit, white shirt and silver/platinum four in hand tie, flower on the lapel. This seems to be the accepted and respected Italian wedding attire in the 50's. I think adding a vest is appropriate.

    For my evening wedding I wore a midnight, tone on tone stripe, DB suit, white shirt, navy and silver check tie.
     


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