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Micro 4/3 cameras: Discussion/Recommendation

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by evilgeniusdan, Jan 31, 2011.

  1. A Y

    A Y Senior member

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    There are some lenses that don't have built-in stabilization, so IBIS is good for that. Also, you can make lenses smaller and lighter when they don't have to carry a stabilizer. The disadvantage is that you have one stabilizer that has to work with all lenses, and it cannot stabilize as well as one built into a lens.

    Also, it's a fairly popular thing to adapt older lenses from other systems to micro 4/3s because the optics of the micro 4/3s make this actually very easy. An IBIS would help here, since those old lenses don't have an IS system.

    --Andre
     
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    Got it. This is basically what I understood but better explained. The reviews did mention that the GF lenses are larger as a result of including the stabilizer. So, do you always need a lens attached or can you shoot without a lens on some very basic level?
    Not all lenses are stabilized. For example, the 20mm pancake is not. Stabilization is less important for wide angle lenses than for zooms
    I understand the first part. I have never used lenses so still trying to understand the idea.
    IOW, the average person could hand hold the 20mm for 1/40 of a second (2x crop factor on M4/3), whereas on the long end of the 45-200 you'd be limited to around 1/400 of a second. Of course the 20mm is also a very fast lens (f1.7), which allows you to shoot faster speeds when wide open.
    Could you please expand on the first part of this? Between the kit lenses, I'd go for the 20mm. I will be using this as a travel camera, taking pictures on vacations and general snapshots. Edit: It also seems like the EP1 is a fair bit cheaper on the bay than GF1. Is this always the best source to pick up a cheap one?
     
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    So, do you always need a lens attached or can you shoot without a lens on some very basic level?
    You need a lens of some sort attached unless you enjoy looking at mostly white rectangles. Actually, I'm not sure these cameras would allow you to take an actual picture without a lens attached. On hand-holding, in general, 1/(lens focal length in equivalent 35 mm sensor size) is the minimum speed you can hand hold a lens without visible shake. It's actually more complicated than that, especially with the high-res sensors on today's cameras, but it's a good rule of thumb. --Andre
     
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    After deliberation, I think I'm going to try to find a decent deal on an Olympus E-P2. Hopefully the price will drop soon, since the EPL2 has been released. Looking forward to playing with legacy glass and my dad's old lenses.

    According to rumor, Oly and Panasonic will release more "professional" higher-spec versions of the Pen Series and GF sometime this year --- might be something to wait for?
     
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    I have the Olympus E-P2

    Terrific camera. I like it a lot.

    I really like the on-board image stabilization. I use it with my legacy Canon FD lenses, and get image stabilization while using my old Canon glass.

    More on my blog here:

    http://www.larsonweb.com/photography/id7.html
     
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