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Miami Vice

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by rdawson808, Jul 25, 2006.

  1. montecristo#4

    montecristo#4 Senior member

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    It's getting to the point that I hate seeing well known actors in films. For me, it's getting harder to seperate the actors from the tabloid crap (ie Farrell and his fighting and tirades).

    Another good reason not to read/watch tabloid journalism. I couldn't pick Farrell out of a lineup, but I will watch the Miami Vice movie.
     
  2. Arethusa

    Arethusa Senior member

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    In the Air Tonight is a great song, and how on earth did you not like Heat?
    I can't say I like either version of In the Air Tonight, but the Nonpoint version is vastly superior. Collins' version, like, well, bascially everything he's every done, is impossible to take seriously. I disliked Heat because I find Mann has a proclivity bordering on pathological need for oversimplifying characters and situations. His ending for Heat, without spoiling it for anyone who hasn't seen it, turns the "villains" into pieces of cardboard while he desperately tries to turn a vaguely sociopathic cop into a hero. He tries the same shit in Collateral and only sort of fails to make a much stupider film because of Cruise and Foxx. It's really, really apparent if you listen to the commentary where he starts talking about how he thinks the ending is about existentialism fighting nihilism. It's pretentious and breathlessly vapid.
     
  3. matadorpoeta

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    But all the complaining I've heard about Vice has pretty sounded like nothing more than fanboys getting mad that it wasn't the original (very, very silly) tv show.

    Come on, who actually takes Phil Collins seriously as a musician? Really.


    the origianl miami vice was the most entertaining show ever on television. the catch is, you had to have seen it when it was new. (it also helped that i was a kid.)

    i saw a couple of minutes of it a few years ago, and it didn't stand the test of time.
     
  4. gorgekko

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    Are you kidding me? The plot was old hat but there's no reason to call it horrible -- I thought what it did, it did well. The pacing, while slow and unvaried, provided a constant sense of dread. And the cinematography was perfect, as always with Michael Mann. The movie wasn't great, but I think it was worth watching. Perhaps you were expecting a remake of the TV show?
    No, I expecting a good movie. Re-read what you just wrote. The plot was old hat. The pacing was slow. Wow, the cinematography was great! The only sense of dread I had was the realization this was a two hour movie. The acting was sub-par. The plot recycled from about one hundred Miami Vice episodes -- and generally even more ludicrous. The pacing was an exercise in patience. The movie wasn't sexy (the chemistry between Colin Farrell and Gong Li was non-existent) or thrilling. It wasn't even stylish, usually a trademark of Mann's movies.The only praise I can give it was that it was shot beautifully. Utterly forgettable.
     
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    I know what I wrote. The point is I found it enjoyable despite the weaknesses we both pointed out.
     
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    Come on, who actually takes Phil Collins seriously as a musician? Really.
    What do you mean? Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite. [​IMG] Jon.
     
  7. montecristo#4

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    What do you mean?

    Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority.

    In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.


    [​IMG]

    Jon.


    LOL. I remember the first time I heard In the Air Tonight, in the cocktail lounge at Dorsia.
     
  8. Tokyo Slim

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    We just get Miami Wice on television. Miami Wice is number one new show!
     
  9. imageWIS

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    We just get Miami Wice on television. Miami Wice is number one new show!

    LMFAO. Scotty doesn't know...

    Jon.
     
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    I saw the movie on Saturday night. The plot was bloated and meandering, the dialogue mediocre, and the character development non-existent. A huge disappointment after Collateral. Recommended only for hardcore Mann fans.
     
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    I was a huge MV fan when I was a kid and expected to love the movie. It was just terrible. Ugh.
     
  12. denimdestroyedmylife

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    I'm late to the party, but I just saw this flick yesterday and I was floored to hear two Mogwai tracks on the score. WTF!? Not just in the background, but full-blown non-diegetic toonage--------wow. It closed the picture.
     
  13. Arethusa

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    Yeah, I was really surprised to see Mogwai on the soundtrack. Blue Foundation, too. Really, really weird, but I'm not complaining. Still haven't seen the movie, but at least some of the music is excellent.
     
  14. johnapril

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    Phil Collins was night skiing at Boreal in the mid-1980s.
     
  15. denimdestroyedmylife

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    The movie exceeded my low expectations; I was expecting something along the lines of the Starsky and Hutch remake. Way off. A contemplative blockbuster--------long takes of fast boats on the water at night. Adopts some of the Pacino Scarface palette.
     
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    It was a bore in the 80's. My question: does this movie officially announce the return of the 80's to the fashion media? I need to know now, so I can get started on my mullet and begin rolling up my sportcoat sleeves.
     
  17. denimdestroyedmylife

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    The 80s are so last year, nineties nostalgia is creeping in. Dry clean your flannel shirts. Chain your wallet. Revive your soul patch. And grow your hair (but never wash or comb it).
     
  18. Englandmj7

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    ha ahha. Why don't you get a god damned job Al?
     
  19. lawyerdad

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    Yeah I am definitely going to see it, but I cannot believe they redid In the Air Tonight.
    Christ, that was the theme song from my junior prom in high school. [​IMG]
     
  20. imageWIS

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    ha ahha. Why don't you get a god damned job Al?

    Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it.

    Jon.
     

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