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Mexico City Suggestions

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by kirbya, Aug 14, 2011.

  1. kirbya

    kirbya Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    My wife and I will be traveling to Mexico City this next week to visit her family. Any recommendations from members of the forum? In particular, any tailors / men's stores worth visiting? Despite several visits, I have yet to find anything particularly unique in Mexico City. I know that this isn't because they do not exist -- but rather because I nor my wife's family know of them.

    One night is already reserved for a nice formal dinner. I will be debuting a new formal dinner jacket from Chris Despos. Pictures to follow, for sure. I believe the restaurant we'll be going to is either Hacienda de los Morales or Restorante San Angel Inn. Both very authentic Mexican establishments.
     
  2. globetrotter

    globetrotter Senior member

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    I've been to San Angel a few times, great place, you and your wife will love it.

    I can't think of any really interesting clothes stores, but on the main square downtown, the zocolo (bad spelling) if the cathedral is 12, at about 8 is a shop that hand makes hats. pretty cool to watch.
     
  3. globetrotter

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    oh, and go to the anthropological museum
     
  4. cmacey

    cmacey Senior member

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    Yeah, register with the State Department: https://travelregistration.state.gov/ibrs/ui/.

    Area threat: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_5440.html.
     
  5. Testudo_Aubreii

    Testudo_Aubreii Senior member

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    Hi Kirby,

    Just got back from DF myself. I'd say that Mexico is distinctive for the guayaberas and Panama hats made in Yucatan and Campeche. I still haven't done my research on good Panama vendors in Mexico City: I do know that a lot of the good ones are made in Bekal in Campeche. But if you like guayaberas, Guayaberas Finas Cab is widely agreed to make some of the best. They're widely thought to be one of the best at pleats and embroidery. http://www.guayaberascab.com.mx/
    They do the traditional all-white ones as well as the new ones with colored embroidery. They have a store on Insurgentes Sur, just down the hill from San Angel. Nancy Sanchez, the salesperson there, knows her stuff. I just ordered a MTM (a la medida) formal Yucatan model from her: good heavy Czech linen, 2100 pesos. They can also make up in serious Irish linen for around 3400 pesos. Turnaround for MTM is about three weeks. Helps to bring along someone with good Spanish, of course. I'm still figuring out the Spanish for "placket!" They have in-store plenty of beautiful RTW models in linen and oxford-weave cotton. They also have shops in Centro and Polanco.

    I did a bit of research into bespoke and MTM tailors while I was down there. Sastre Stefano is widely thought to do good bespoke work. They have storefronts in Centro and Del Valle. I haven't been, though, so don't have details on kind of canvassing, amount of handwork, house cut, or exact prices. http://www.stefano.com.mx/index.htm

    I've not been to Hacienda de Los Morales, but have heard great things. I love San Angel Inn. Love to see a photo of you all there or at la Hacienda.

    Is your wife chilanga? Mine is.

    iQue disfruten!
     
  6. PL92106

    PL92106 Senior member

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    I'm no help for clothes there. San Angel Inn is amazing. First and likely last time I'll have escamole, which was pretty damn good after some ridiculously refined tequila (of course got the finger wagged in my face by the hosts as they thought I'd shoot it barbaric American fashion instead of sip it like a civilized person)... Fonda el Refugio is a regular (sit down casual) stop for me. The St. Regis is an amazingly good value if you need lodging recs... Even though they seem like they've been refurbed for tourists (would guess that the ancients had no concrete) but Sun/Moon Pyramids at Teotihuacan are worth the ~hour drive.
     
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  7. kirbya

    kirbya Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    This is a ton of great information! I'll definitely go check out Guayaberas Finas Cab and have a shirt made. If we have time, I'll also try to call on Sastre Stefano. Maybe he'll be interested to trade for some hangers... ;)

    Pictures sure to follow. I'm looking forward to debuting this new dinner jacket.

    As for my wife, she was born and raised in DF, so completely fluent. She is very helpful. Our time in the city is more culinary tourism than anything else... we go to all her favorite restaurants so she can get her "comfort food" fix!
     
  8. spudnik99

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    Placket = Aletilla

    Hat store on the Zocalo (the main square) is Tardan, if you go there, check out the Museo del Templo Mayor, it's behind to the right of the National Cathedral. The Aztecs (Mexica) were a warrior people, so their art has a modernist feel to it.

    Clotheswise, Sastreria Adrian is also good, but most people buy things in the States (NYC, Houston/Dallas, SD/BH).

    If you can only go to one museum, the National Anthropological museum is the must see. The exhibit on the second floor are merely ok, could probably skip those if you're pressed for time.

    If you're up for it, go to the Sonora Market (Mercado de Sonora) to see all manner of witchcraft/medicinal wares.



    Foodwise, only Tijuana, because of its proximity to California and immigrants for every state, can compete. Have your wife's family take you to El Charco de las Ranas for tacos and El Gallito for tacos guisados or their favorite taco place. The DF has good Lebanese and traditional Castilian/Basque/Galician restaurants.

    Upscale places to check out in th: Pujol (Polanco), Azul y Oro (UNAM campus, or Azul in the Condesa), Contramar (Condesa), Merotoro (Condesa), Jaso (Polanco), Paxia (Santa Fe or San Angel).

    Have some seafood and do a breakfast. Breakfast is hearty but good, some restaurants are only open for breakfasts for the hungover on the weekend. Again, your wife's family should be in the know.

    Enjoy your trip.
     
  9. Testudo_Aubreii

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    Thanks, spudnik. Do you live in DF?

    If so, a couple of questions: Do you think Tardan is one of the best vendors of Panamas in the city?

    I've also noticed that professional-class DFenios tend to think that buying US or Italian RTW makes more sense than buying Mexican bespoke/MTM or RTW. Professional people seem to buy local custom-made clothes at an even lower rate than their peers do in the States. Is this warranted by a lack of good local custom clothes, or is it just another facet of their inferiority complex? I.e., ever had Sastreria Adrian or Sastreria Stefano make you anything? How was it?
     
  10. spudnik99

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    Lived in the DF for about six years during the late 80's to mid 90's, moved out because of the traffic, especially in the summer rainy season.

    Tardán: Haven't shopped there in years. Years ago, I got a nice riverboat gambler palmetto hat from them that I still wear at the beach. Don't know of a better place to get a hat in Mexico, though at this point in time I'd check their hats for "Hecho en China" labels.

    Sastrería Adrián: I have six sportcoats from them, did CMT with fabric that I smuggled in from NYC (tariffs at the time made getting good English cloth just ridiculous). I found out about them from a national politician, I complimented him on his clothes, asked if they were Savile Row, answered "No, I don't have time, they're from Sasteria Adrian". Canvassed, they've held up well.

    Suits: When I lived in the DF, most people I worked with wore Hugo Boss suits with unvented jackets (Montblanc pen and Rolex watch were the accesories of choice). Dressing well and developing your own sense of style requires some knowledge, few men want to make the effort to know about these things, they just want to go to Antonio Solito in Polanco and ask for a Brioni or Kiton suit. They're buying a prestigious label for the extrinsic value. The construction and fabric quality that come with an Italian OTR suit are considered part of the brand, not something that can be replicated or bettered by a tailor. Yes, the extrinsic value is to compensate for their inferiority complex. The lack of pattern and/or color in local business dress here just screams "no confidence".
     
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  11. Outlet_cherry_picker

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    Mexicans normally go shopping to Houston or NYC, but Adrian is a very good taylor as well as Antonio Solito in the Mazaryk area (both have ridiculous prices). If you are looking for bargains you can go to Punta Norte Mall where you can find factory stores of Ferragamo, Zegna, Zanetti, and Solito(mainly Brioni stuff). The recomendations for hats and Guayaberas are excellent.
    For a different dinning experience there is a nice restaurant of basque food in the elegant neighbourhood of Lomas, is called Bakea (Sierra Ventana 700-5. Col. Lomas de Chapultepec, phone number 5520-7472), another excellent restaurant of mexican food in Polanco area is Pujol (Francisco Petrarca 254. Col. Chapultepec Morales, Phone 5545-4111).
    If you like modern art you can go to Ciudad Universitaria and visit the MUAC (Museo Universitario de Arte Contemporaneo) is close to the San Angel area and there are a lot to be seen around.
    Enjoy our city and don't forget a light trench coat.
     
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  12. Testudo_Aubreii

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    Wow, thanks for the great information, spudnik. I'll check out Adrian and Tardan next time I'm there.

    Thanks, Outlet. Glad to hear you think Cab are good people for guayaberas. As for Adrian: any ideas about recent pricing for their bespoke/MTM? I can't find much information online.

    This thread is single-handedly burying the myth that you can't get well-constructed, durable Mexico-made clothes!

    I agree that Bakea is great. Never been to Pujol.
     
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  13. deveandepot1

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    Look out for street vendors selling belts. I found some nice, what I think, are shell cordovan belts for $20 a piece. They smelt terrible, but after being left in the sun for a couple months they became a wardrobe staple.
     
  14. Outlet_cherry_picker

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    Pujol is actually awarded as one of the 50 best restaurants of the world as well as BIKO (also in Mazaryk area).
    No idea of the cost of a MTM/Bespoke with Adrian, there is another taylor near the American Embassy, called Casa Cuesta (Rio Sena almost corner with Paseo de la Reforma) is not expensive, but check first if you like the construction of the suit specially the padded of the shoulder, the inners and the canvassed.
     
  15. inkwretch

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    I met a tailor "sastre Jose Luis" in the Palanco neighborhood near the El Presidente hotel. He did some work on some slacks for me and I was pleased with the results. He said he worked with the top tailor in the city, who's name I cannot remember. He had some top English and Italian cloth in his shop that he was making up into suits for clients. I was going to have him make me a jacket in cotton or something inexpensive next time I was in town as a test. His phone number is 19973636 or 0445521992026. I don't have his address. Good luck! Please share what you find out.
     
  16. 15DollarMan

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    Try Calle Republica de Uruguay for MTO and MTM shoes.

    There are two shoe makers there amongst all the stores selling Hecho en China imports.

    I should pick up my two pairs this weekend. Less than $100usd each.

    Edit: the shop with the shorter last name came highly recommended.
     
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  17. Testudo_Aubreii

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    Thanks for all the great suggestions, guys. Please keep them coming!

    15Dollar, MTM shoes for less than 100 USD sounds pretty cool. Can you give the name of the shop? Do you have any info on construction? Be an amazing deal if it were Goodyear welted or Blake/rapid stitched.

    I hope you can find the time to write up a review of the shoes. I suspect there are a good number of members who'd be interested in an MTM shoe at that price, and could make it to DF without too much trouble.
     
  18. 15DollarMan

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    Could not remember the name, then I remembered I have the receipt in my pocket.

    Address is actually 109 Rep. De Ecuador!

    Antonio Gomez, fine shoes for men. They don't even have a sign out front, lady says they've been there for almost 200 years.

    My shoe-Fu is weak, so I probably have my terms wrong, but I think one of the makers (the other is right across the street) does the hidden stitch where you can only see a cut going around the sole, the other has a channel where you can see the stitching.

    If you want OTR Goodyear welter shoes, try Gonzalez in el centro THIS ONE is Paraguay near Eje 1.
     
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  19. Testudo_Aubreii

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    Well, if the channel with the stitching is in the bottom of the outsole, then that sounds like Goodyear! Judging by A Harris's great "Shoes Explained" post:
    http://www.styleforum.net/t/701/shoes-explained

    Thanks for the Gonzalez tip. I will have to check them out.

    Sounds like with Gomez you may have found an excellent deal!
     
  20. kirbya

    kirbya Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    All very interesting. I'll see what I can find out this weekend. Hopefully I can find some time to get away from the family to explore some of these stores!
     

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