Today I droped by Harry and there was president from Kiton. He was an italian still had very thick italian accent. What a nice man. He certainly know how to make any customer feel like a millionare. Almost made me to buy Kiton at retail price... Anyways long story short, he grabed one the jacket off the rack, rolled it like pastery.. put it on the floor and he stomped on it for decent 30 sec or so .. this was $7000CAD suit jacket... He unrolled it and showed how their shoulder and chest pieces do not get distressed by physical force that easly. I was more amazed about his showmanship. But what a suit. Kiton fitted great on me... I think it may have looked better than Attolini ..