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Menswear on Women

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, May 18, 2014.

  1. jrd617

    jrd617 Stylish Dinosaur

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    There is a ton of variation. Even on Savile Row, there's the Conduit Cut.

    I'd say the "mean" in this case is a regular department store suit that takes elements of the drape and the sack. Lauren by Ralph Lauren or something.

    It's hard to quantify the "deviation," but those YSL's that were posted were way off the chart. Bell bottom pants, pagoda shoulders.
     


  2. dieworkwear

    dieworkwear Distinguished Member

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    It's not an easy position to defend, but I think I like Tommy Nutter's extreme suits better than Lauren by Ralph Lauren.
     


  3. Journeyman

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    Let's not forget that bell bottom pants were very much in vogue in both menswear and womenswear in the 1970s, and that large shoulders were popular in menswear in the 1980s and early 1990s and even appear nowadays in some garments.


    Well, at least Nutter's were good quality and well cut and well made.
     


  4. jrd617

    jrd617 Stylish Dinosaur

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    I was referencing YSL in my last post, but quality aside, I'd definitely prefer a Lauren by RL to a 70s era Nutter.

    Take the RL to get the waist nipped and just hope for the best :)

     
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  5. jrd617

    jrd617 Stylish Dinosaur

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    I'm sure from this picture he's capable of doing a more conservative cut. But again, far closer to the mean than some of what's been posted in this thread:

     


  6. Claghorn

    Claghorn Stylish Dinosaur Dubiously Honored

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    Mrs. Vanda Fine Clothing (@gshen let me know if I should take this down; it was on your tumblr)

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    Side note: also discovered gshen's wedding suit is made of the same fabric as the suit I am using for my (not quite wedding, just a Stateside celebration of nuptials, which occurred this time last year) ceremony.


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    Posted this in CM as well (not sure where to be posting these 'fits)

    But this is how I perceive Menswear on Women to look like, not all the frills / peacocking:

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    Back of Vest (okay, a little peacocking)

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  8. The_Foxx

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    I think this thread is getting confusing and people are off topic. Women wearing a feminine, clearly made for women business suit isn't what this is about to me-- it's menswear-inspired style that challenges conceptions of "this is for men, that's for ladies". This topic and pix are faaaaar more relevant than hirsch's lady purchases in which no one has any interest on this forum.
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  9. Cleav

    Cleav Stylish Dinosaur Dubiously Honored Moderator

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  10. Isolation

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    I personally think that kind of lining is garish/tacky and it's strikingly so for me, though I personally like the look otherwise. I like waistcoats worn casually or outside of suits or suit-like ensembles, but I think SF generally dislikes it.

    What do you think of neckties (more of them, anyway) as opposed to bowties. I presume you have a preference for the latter,
     


  11. coldsalmon

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    This kind of got passed over, but I have always thought it strange that women don't wear the same CBD uniform as men. It seems to me that there is a huge untapped market of professional women who want to dress just as well as their male counterparts, many of whom are wearing MTM and bespoke suits, but there is nobody providing that service for women (except for Kylerton, who is about to take over the world). I wear a suit and tie because I am a lawyer and lawyers wear suits and ties. I also have a short haircut for the same reason. I wonder how close a woman can get to male CBD without looking costumey. I'd like to see an example of a woman wearing full CBD well, but I can't think of any right now.

    On a different but related note, here's a prototypical Hollywood example of the competent female professional: Rosalind Russell with CG in "His Girl Friday."

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    No tie, but of course, there are often two large obstacles preventing a woman's tie from draping correctly.
     
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  12. dieworkwear

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    Have you considered growing it out? I've read that -- like granny knots, ink jetted silks, and lupus -- short haircuts can be terribly unattractive.
     


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    Can the term peacocking properly apply to women? I mean the term comes from the fact that the peacock is colourful and the peahen, not so much, the reverse of what is considered the norm in modern western society.
     


  14. sugarbutch

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    This isn't p'cockish, but it definitely leans toward the SWD conception of tailored clothing. Not a bad thing, but not "classic" as most here would understand it. (Sorry to use the "c" word, Tira. I know how it pains you.)
     


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