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Men's watch at the $5K mark?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by antipaladin, Jun 11, 2012.

  1. Texasmade

    Texasmade Senior member

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    I think authorized dealer.
     
  2. EvilTuna7

    EvilTuna7 Well-Known Member

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    Yea AD = authorized dealer. Sorry for the short hand.
     
  3. Mr Pink

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    I'd go for Omega or Breitling. I think Omega's still offer one of the best values out of any watch manufacturer. I have a Planet Ocean XL and love the thing. You can dress it up or down with different straps, and it's been extremely reliable for me. Pretty sure you can get one for under $5M with warranty too.

    BTW, you can always get a used Rolex or something, but everyone and their brother has a Submariner. In the last several years I've seen less than 10 planet oceans in person. Probably something like 6-7 in that span. That's something I like.
     
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  4. minervau

    minervau Senior member

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    I'm curious how many Rolexes you've seen, and whether this is a fair comparison. Submariner is probably the most popular Rolex (or on bar with Datejust), while Planet Ocean is further down the Omega popularity totem pole. You will see plenty of Speedmaster Pros or more conventional Seamasters (e.g., Aqua Terra), and I'd personally guess that of the luxury watch brands, Omega is the 2nd most popular brand in the US other than Rolex.

    I'd suggest the poster take a look at JLC, as mentioned above, or in the 5K range, a Zenith Ultra Thin or for a bit more, a Captain Moonphase. Beautiful watches with history, in-house movements, and good styling, and these you truly will not see on every other wrist, even in New York or LA.
     
  5. got8spd

    got8spd New Member

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    I agree with one other person and vote the Zenith. Great watch, little more exclusive as you don't see everyone wearing one like a Rolex or a Panerai. You can get a Ultra Thin Elite for probably around 5k...I have Grande Class 44mm...LOVE IT.

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    Rolexes will cost more than 5k now a days no? I think the Explorer II is now like 6200?
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  6. ianGP

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    Rolex will cost 9-10k now... :( but I'm talking about their sportier collection (new ceramic subs, gmts, yachty, DSSD)


    I am SO down for that JLC MC! A shop here in DC actually tagged it at 4800 IIRC.... and +1million on that Seiko GS - open caseback, in house movement.

    The Zenith's are growing on me


    My next watch will most likely be a vintage patek or a jules audemars.... still saving :embar:
     
  7. ethanm

    ethanm Senior member

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    You can find LNIB Rolexes for ~$5.5k. Buying a new watch is like buying a new car and really not worth it IMO. Especially for a maker like Rolex whose designs haven't significantly changed in the last 60 years.
     
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  8. ianGP

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    Completely agree. I think watchuseek and other forums have some great deals in their B&S threads - and there are AD's also participating in them. I would still use caution and meet at an AD for verification though.

    Had an office buddy buy a fake - the F-er had fake papers with the box as well :(
     
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  9. ethanm

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    I like Bernard Watch for used watches. I wish they would get into the vintage game though!
     
  10. ThatGuy

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    For your first "nice" watch, I would recommend going for a brick&mortar experience. There's no.better feeling than leaving a boutique with a brand new watch that is all you.

    At your price point, I would recommend an IWC Pilot Chrono (New/Old), A NOS Breitling Navitimer (ADs may still have some) or an Omega Seamaster.

    If buying USED, go for a Rolex Submariner. Classic watch and I believe every watch enthusiast should have a Rolex.
     
  11. bigbadbuff

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    I would suggest:

    Go to as many stores and boutiques as you can and try on as much as you can- it sucks to love a watch in pictures only to have it not fit well/look worse in person/etc.

    You have to think somewhat long term if you're going to spend 5k on a watch (the average guy at least). Will it be the only one for years, and thus you need it to be very versatile?

    Take your time making a short list, and then look at the short list pieces A LOT before making a decision. Make sure you LOVE it before buying, buyer's remorse happens a lot in watches.

    Educate yourself to the nth and buy used from a reputable seller on reputable forums like timezone/rolex forums. New watch prices are insane. North of 7k for a steel Submariner now, fuck off Rolex. Watches that are a revision or two back- usually very similar to the current model- are a good value, in many cases.
     
  12. antipaladin

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    I was thinking heavily on an Omega PO Chronograph

    http://www.omegawatches.com/gents/seamaster/planet-ocean-chrono/23230465101003

    What sort of discount should I expect on this nowadays through an AD?
    I've seen some posts with people getting 25%-30% but spoke to two jewellers
    in CT who laughed and said "Maybe 5%...these fly out the door".

    With an $8200 retail, I was hoping to get somewhere around $6K. Am I being
    unrealistic or just need to shop around more?
     
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  13. SkinnyGoomba

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    Cartier tank franchise. I have one in gold, a bit more than 5k, but in stainless steel they are also very cool and right about your price point.
     
  14. Cant kill da Rooster

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    Well if they can't match an online dealer, buy it online.

    http://www.prestigetime.com/items.php?brand=26&series=918

    BTW, I find anything over 25% very difficult to believe unless it's a model the AD wants to get rid of.
     
  15. antipaladin

    antipaladin Member

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    It's my first high end watch purchase and was hoping to buy from an AD as I'm planning
    on keeping it for a long while. I managed to find a 15% discount from one AD although
    8 out of 10 said "nothing" and one said "5%". I've checked the grey market sites and the
    one you mentioned is the best at 18% with a month long wait. I think I'm going to jump
    on the 15%. $6970 from an AD with the full warranty is worth the peace of mind

    I've officially joined the fancy watch club. :)
     
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  16. antipaladin

    antipaladin Member

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    Even better...got the 25% from another AD and pulled the trigger on this one. Great watch!
     
  17. TimelesStyle

    TimelesStyle Senior member

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    A relationship or referral will go a long way. I got a referral to my Rolex AD and got 20% off on an Exp. II (granted this was in 2009, mid-recession) and also received a referral to my IWC dealer who got me 25% off on a special order Mk XVI and subsequently got my father 30% off on an IWC and two friends 25% off on their Omegas (one a PO 42mm, the other a SMP 300m).
     
  18. Cant kill da Rooster

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    All from the same AD? You bring a lot more business than I could, but well done.
     
  19. ThatGuy

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    Good stuff. ADs are your safest best and give the best experience.

    Pics?
     
  20. TimelesStyle

    TimelesStyle Senior member

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    The Rolex was from on AD, the IWCs and Omegas from another. However, initially I received introductions to both (one from a family friend, the other from someone on Time Zone). Spend some time on some watch-specific forums and you should be able to find some good introductions yourself.
     
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