Meermin MTO Suede Adelaide --- Thread for those ordering.

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  1. SidewinderX

    SidewinderX Senior member

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    Ah, I meant "bumped over" -- in the table it says "yes" under medallion+captoe, and we don't want the medallion.
     


  2. leetpuma

    leetpuma Senior member

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    You are correct. Here is the fixed version:

    Title: SUEDE
    Adelade MT



    Lining

    medalion + captoe

    Peaked Heal counter

    Last

    Copper suede belt wanted? Not 100% We can get one.

    Percent Certainty you will be participating

    Does Leetpuma have your email yet?
    Leetpuma

    Red

    medium no

    Dont care

    Olfe/park



    95%

    yes
    P.henrik

    -

    Stong yes

    -








    denbo

    purple

    medium no

    medium yes

    Olfe / Park

    100 cm

    98%

    Yes
    griffion_id

    red

    medium no

    dont care

    park





    Yes
    agedashidofu

    red

    strong no

    strong yes

    park

    Belt Please



    Yes
    SidewinderX

    red

    medium no

    Light yes

    Olfe



    80%

    Yes
    Eddielch

    Sharp

    medium no

    dont care

    park



    90%

    Yes
    13G411

    Sharp

    medium no

    dont care

    park





    Yes
    blue2007

    no opinion

    ?

    ?

    park

    Kinda



    Yes
    Unregistered

    purple

    medium no

    no idea

    park

    belt - 34"

    90%

    Yes
    Fern

    Red

    no

    no idea

    Olfe for now till we know more about park

    size 32"

    90%

    Yes
    Shawl Lapel

    red

    Strong no

    Strong yes

    Olfe Maybe park



    95%

    Yes
    ttrt

    Red

    Strong No

    Strong Yes

    Park

    34”

    95%

    Yes

    Osiris
    Purple
    Strong No
    Either Olfe
    95%

    Yes




    Decision

    red

    No medalion

    Yes

    Olfe/Park

    Yes dependent on size
    of waist. Price TBD. Probably the regular belt price.





    Reguardless here are the specifics that Pepe has actually recieved at this point:

    SHOE SPECIFICS: (As supplied to Pepe.)
    As of now it seems like the MTO will basically be:
    1) Leather Soles
    2) Brogued captoe, just like the picture: http://cdn.styleforum.net/d/d4/d43f8168_image.jpeg
    3) Copper Suede (reverse calf - higher quality LM suede)
    4) Peaked Heal Counters
    5) Olfe/Park Lasts (about 7 park's and 2 olfe's)
    6) Adelaide form factor, just like the picture: http://cdn.styleforum.net/d/d4/d43f8168_image.jpeg
    7) Red shoe lining
    8) Initials with brass nails on sole
    9) Phrase on window in lining of shoe
    10) Dark brown sole edge
     
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2014


  3. leetpuma

    leetpuma Senior member

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    Ok so I was doing some research.
    Most LM suede that meermin uses is
    Janus Calf Suede http://www.cfstead.com/content/products/januscalf.htm
    Which is good 1.4-1.6mm thick

    But to really go epic we could get:
    http://www.cfstead.com/content/products/janusbutt.htm
    Which is 2.0 - 2.4 thick
    They even have a nice copperish color called "red dirt"
    http://www.cfstead.com/content/products/janusbuttcoloursbig.jpg

    This is probably the nicest suede that humans can buy. And I would like to see if Pepe can source it.

    Would you guys be on board for this. Even if their is a upcharge? (I really think it will be worth it in the over all life of our shoes.)

    Hell this suede may even make the carmina guys blush :p

    Title: SUEDE
    Adelade MT



    Lining

    medalion + captoe

    Peaked Heal counter

    Last

    Copper suede belt wanted? Not 100% We can get one.

    Interested in super thick suede. Janus Butt
    Percent Certainty you will be participating

    Does Leetpuma have your email yet?
    Leetpuma

    Red

    medium no

    Dont care

    Olfe/park


    Strong Yes
    95%

    yes
    P.henrik

    -

    Stong yes

    -








    denbo

    purple

    medium no

    medium yes

    Olfe / Park

    100 cm


    98%

    Yes
    griffion_id

    red

    medium no

    dont care

    park





    Yes
    agedashidofu

    red

    strong no

    strong yes

    park

    Belt Please




    Yes
    SidewinderX

    red

    medium no

    Light yes

    Olfe



    80%

    Yes
    Eddielch

    Sharp

    medium no

    dont care

    park



    90%

    Yes
    13G411

    Sharp

    medium no

    dont care

    park





    Yes
    blue2007

    no opinion

    ?

    ?

    park

    Kinda




    Yes
    Unregistered

    purple

    medium no

    no idea

    park

    belt - 34"


    90%

    Yes
    Fern

    Red

    no

    no idea

    Olfe for now till we know more about park

    size 32"


    90%

    Yes
    Shawl Lapel

    red

    Strong no

    Strong yes

    Olfe Maybe park



    95%

    Yes
    ttrt

    Red

    Strong No

    Strong Yes

    Park

    34”


    95%

    Yes

    Osiris
    Purple
    Strong No
    Either Olfe
    95%

    Yes




    Decision

    red

    No medalion

    Yes

    Olfe/Park

    Yes dependent on size
    of waist. Price TBD. Probably the regular belt price.

    Costs and things very much in flux.


     
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2014


  4. leetpuma

    leetpuma Senior member

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    I have also asked Pepe:

    I wanted to inquire as to if we could source a slightly different suede version.

    I have read that Meermin is using Janus calfskin for normal LM suede.

    Would it be possible to source Janus Butt calfskin for this MTO. This sude looks to be much thicker with tighter fibers. This MTO is now hovering around 13 people.

    Janus Butt Calfskin (What we would like to use) : http://www.cfstead.com/content/products/janusbutt.htm
    Janus Butt Colors (What we would like to use color red dirt): http://www.cfstead.com/content/products/janusbuttcoloursbig.jpg

    Janus calfskin (What is normally used): http://www.cfstead.com/content/products/januscalf.htm
     


  5. griffon_id

    griffon_id Senior member

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    What would be the quality-wise to compare Janus with the LM reverse?
     


  6. leetpuma

    leetpuma Senior member

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    I think you misunderstand. Janus is the same as LM reverse. Janus BUTT is new. The quality will be an order of magnitued higher.

    Let me try to say this a differnty way:

    regular LM Calf = Janus suede Calf = medium quality reverse calf

    New proposed suede:

    Never been made by meermin = Janus butt suede calf = High quality reverse calf
     


  7. griffon_id

    griffon_id Senior member

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    Got it. So Pepe will yet to feedback on the feasibility and any price change (if any)?
    For the color, red dirt looks good. But not sure if it will be too much red and how far off is the red dirt to the copper suede?
     


  8. leetpuma

    leetpuma Senior member

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    Truthfully I bet "copper suede" is just rebranded red dirt by meermin. But no certainty there.

    Actually i take that back it may be a bit more red. But either way the upgrade in leather quality will be more than worth it to me :)
     
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  9. griffon_id

    griffon_id Senior member

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    I have a hard time to work with the table format in my PC, can you help to put down my comment on the Janus Butt Suede column as "Yes - but concern with color"?
    Thanks.
     


  10. leetpuma

    leetpuma Senior member

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    Title: SUEDE
    Adelade MT



    Lining

    medalion + captoe

    Peaked Heal counter

    Last

    Copper suede belt wanted? Not 100% We can get one.

    Interested in super thick suede. Janus Butt
    Percent Certainty you will be participating

    Does Leetpuma have your email yet?
    Leetpuma

    Red

    medium no

    Dont care

    Olfe/park


    Strong Yes
    95%

    yes
    P.henrik

    -

    Stong yes

    -








    denbo

    purple

    medium no

    medium yes

    Olfe / Park

    100 cm


    98%

    Yes
    griffion_id

    red

    medium no

    dont care

    park


    Yes - tentative on color


    Yes
    agedashidofu

    red

    strong no

    strong yes

    park

    Belt Please




    Yes
    SidewinderX

    red

    medium no

    Light yes

    Olfe



    80%

    Yes
    Eddielch

    Sharp

    medium no

    dont care

    park



    90%

    Yes
    13G411

    Sharp

    medium no

    dont care

    park





    Yes
    blue2007

    no opinion

    ?

    ?

    park

    Kinda




    Yes
    Unregistered

    purple

    medium no

    no idea

    park

    belt - 34"


    90%

    Yes
    Fern

    Red

    no

    no idea

    Olfe for now till we know more about park

    size 32"


    90%

    Yes
    Shawl Lapel

    red

    Strong no

    Strong yes

    Olfe Maybe park



    95%

    Yes
    ttrt

    Red

    Strong No

    Strong Yes

    Park

    34”


    95%

    Yes

    Osiris
    Purple
    Strong No
    Either Olfe
    95%

    Yes




    Decision

    red

    No medalion

    Yes

    Olfe/Park

    Yes dependent on size
    of waist. Price TBD. Probably the regular belt price.

    Costs and things very much in flux.


     
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2014


  11. fern

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  12. Osiris2012

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    fwiw I just want suede that is copper suede and the colour that's basically been shown in all the pics before today..don't know what this red dirt business is.
     


  13. leetpuma

    leetpuma Senior member

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    I am flexible about the color.
    But I really would like to see if we can get this leather.
    This is so much better than the normal LM suede.

    These hides are pulled from the butt of the animal much like shell cordovan. The grain of the animal's leather is much much tighter there.
    leading to more even suede and much longer lasting leather.

    If Pepe shoots us down then we can go back to the regular reverse calf but I really do think this is worth doing. This high quality suede will make the shoes last much longer and look nicer the whole time.

    Here is an example of how much stronger butt leather is under an microscope:
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    This is pic is for shell cordovan but the principal still applies with calf skin leathers. That CL layer is very strong.
     


  14. Shawl Lapel

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    x2
     


  15. agedashidofu

    agedashidofu Senior member

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    I also prefer the original copper suede
    Thx
     


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