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I actually had to do a fair bit of googling to find ALL the exceptions (most just stated the norm), but here you go:
.Right of Withdrawal - Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
Ministero dello Sviluppo Economico --www.mise.gov.it
Notably, no mentions of seconds, final sales, or any such things as valid exceptions.
That is essentially what I did and they don't fit. I have some Johnston and Murphy, Spier and Mackay, and Thursday boots all in 11. They fit. Meermin in 11 doesn't fit.
I am mainly posting this for those who have yet to make a purchase and are trying to find their size. I guess my point is that the few GYW shoes I have tried run bigger than the Meermin I have tried, and was wondering if this is the case for others.
I would like to read what @Meermin has to say about being repeatedly accused of illegally selling their "factory seconds", that could be considered defamatory.I actually had to do a fair bit of googling to find ALL the exceptions (most just stated the norm), but here you go:
.Right of Withdrawal - Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
Ministero dello Sviluppo Economico --www.mise.gov.it
Notably, no mentions of seconds, final sales, or any such things as valid exceptions.
Although I’m having fun at their expense, I believe they are correct if they are EU customers. The problem for them however, their recourse is to sue the company; but they have to take them to court in the country from which the product originated. The reality is, it’s just a very silly idea to purchase seconds, and insist on being able to return them. These people are the poster children for the customer no business wants.I would like to read what @Meermin has to say about being repeatedly accused of illegally selling their "factory seconds", that could be considered defamatory.
On the other hand, I do agree with what you posted is what the Italian government establish about buying new items (which I assume is similar to the Spanish, as EU members), but in this case it's certainly not clear as we are talking about "factory seconds", not new items, so defects are implied:
"Factory seconds, also known as factory rejects or simply seconds, are retail items that, through minor fault of manufacture, are sold to the public for a reduced rate, rather than being discarded. Such goods are often resold at this lower rate after failing the factory's quality inspection, being returned to the manufacturer's factory by the original retailer, or (less frequently) being returned to the retailer or wholesaler by the customer".
This is what I found:
"All Sales Final" Policy - TermsFeed
An "All Sales Final" Policy is a policy that declares that you do not accept returns and don't issue refunds. In essence, all sales are final. While it's possible to have an "All Sales Final" Policy that does not allow...www.termsfeed.com
U.S.
All Sales Final policies are not prohibited under federal or any state law. As long as the policy is clear and in writing, retailers do not have to issue a return or refund except when a product is defective. If a merchant has an "All Sales Final" policy, it must be in a clear and conspicuous place in a storefront or website.
U.K.
All Sales Final policies are allowed in U.K. stores because a return policy is not required. If this is the case with your storefront or website, you must communicate limits clearly to your customers through signage or a clear policy on your website.
Canada
Like the other jurisdictions, Canada does not require that merchants accept returns or issue refunds under all circumstances. If you have an "All Sales Final" policy, it must be posted, so customers see it before they buy.
Agree with you, additionally Meermin clearly advert in their FAQ:Although I’m having fun at their expense, I believe they are correct if they are EU customers. The problem for them however, their recourse is to sue the company; but they have to take them to court in the country from which the product originated. The reality is, it’s just a very silly idea to purchase seconds, and insist on being able to return them. These people are the poster children for the customer no business wants.
Well, if even after reading it verbatim you make up exceptions that are not there, I can't help you . And getting tired of the apologists here, now even accusing me of defamation.I would like to read what @Meermin has to say about being repeatedly accused of illegally selling their "factory seconds", that could be considered defamatory.
On the other hand, I do agree with what you posted is what the Italian government establish about buying new items (which I assume is similar to the Spanish, as EU members), but in this case it's certainly not clear as we ar talking about "factory seconds", not new items, so defects are implied:
"Factory seconds, also known as factory rejects or simply seconds, are retail items that, through minor fault of manufacture, are sold to the public for a reduced rate, rather than being discarded. Such goods are often resold at this lower rate after failing the factory's quality inspection, being returned to the manufacturer's factory by the original retailer, or (less frequently) being returned to the retailer or wholesaler by the customer".
This is what I found:
"All Sales Final" Policy - TermsFeed
An "All Sales Final" Policy is a policy that declares that you do not accept returns and don't issue refunds. In essence, all sales are final. While it's possible to have an "All Sales Final" Policy that does not allow...www.termsfeed.com
U.S.
All Sales Final policies are not prohibited under federal or any state law. As long as the policy is clear and in writing, retailers do not have to issue a return or refund except when a product is defective. If a merchant has an "All Sales Final" policy, it must be in a clear and conspicuous place in a storefront or website.
U.K.
All Sales Final policies are allowed in U.K. stores because a return policy is not required. If this is the case with your storefront or website, you must communicate limits clearly to your customers through signage or a clear policy on your website.
Canada
Like the other jurisdictions, Canada does not require that merchants accept returns or issue refunds under all circumstances. If you have an "All Sales Final" policy, it must be posted, so customers see it before they buy.
I can't be apologetic for a brand that I don't use, as I mentioned before. My point is that some comments are misleading based on supposedly legal facts that haven't being proved. Additionally, on assumptions that simply are illogical such as pretending to return an item that was bought knowing it was faulty. As I don't live in the EU, your comment is unsubstantial to me.Meermin apologetics again. In EU you do not go to court. There is a dedicated Consumer Protection agency where you file complaints.
The problem is not thst they are selling factory seconds, which is great, problem is they cannot return them.
I didn't ask for your help, I asked for a clarification on your affirmations that you were unable to provide. It isn't hard to understand that the factory sale was related to hundreds of products with different issues, impossible to detail one by one. If you decided to buy, it was on your risk knowing their conditions.Well, if even after reading it verbatim you make up exceptions that are not there, I can't help you. And getting tired of the apologists here, now even accusing me of defamation.
What's absurd is selling defective goods without describing or depicting what is the exact defect, and then even pretending to override the law. And you people even defend that, wow.
So I guess I'll go somewhere else. Thanks for not being helpful (most of you).
Meermin apologetics again. In EU you do not go to court. There is a dedicated Consumer Protection agency where you file complaints.
The problem is not thst they are selling factory seconds, which is great, problem is they cannot return them.
I would like to read which is the law that support your affirmations, related specifically for “final sales” of factory seconds, so I’ll appreciate it if you can share a link to it.
If you bought a product or a service online or outside of a shop (by telephone, mail order, from a door-to-door salesperson), you also have the right to cancel and return your order within 14 days, for any reason and without a justification.
The 14-day cooling off period does not apply to all purchases. Some of the exemptions are:
- plane and train tickets, as well as concert tickets, hotel bookings, car rental reservations and catering services for specific dates
- goods and drinks delivered to you by regular delivery – for example delivery by a milkman
- goods made to order or clearly personalised – such as a tailor-made suit
- sealed audio, video or computer software, such as DVDs, which you have unsealed upon receipt
- online digital content, if you have already started downloading or streaming it and you agreed that you would lose your right of withdrawal by starting the performance
- goods bought from a private individual rather than a company/trader
- urgent repairs and maintenance contracts – if you call a plumber to repair a leaking shower, you can't cancel the work once you have agreed on the price of the service