I own a pair of C&J Lowndes which I love, I have nothing against DM at all. The thing is that they are quite special shoes, and therefore need an extra attention to detail. As you can see madkap has only one post, and I took it for granted he's quite new in the game. A pair of "dad jeans" or an outfit such as the one below would look off with a pair of DM. This looks much better: DM needs a lot more attention to fit and detail than a pair of longwings and chukkas. I'm not saying that madkap wears poorly fitted clothes, but I see a lot of beginners with weird fits where a pair of DMs would just make it look ridiculous. Edit: Some seconds too late, but fully agree. DM with jeans and polo are one of my favorite looks if done right.