Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by asturiano, Dec 5, 2011.
At the time I ordered, they were not on the web site. I saw them on Meermin's tumblr and asked nicely wether they were available. Prompt answer was, that they were just being made and they would be ready in my size in about 30-40 days. I pre-ordered immediately being given the option of paying when actual stock arrived. Very happy with how Meermin handled this. Now they are available on the web site as Christian B points out.
P.S. I asked for the special toe tap treatment that is not standard.
Semi brogue's absolute yes, double monks in brown are listed in the classic and those would be a good substitute for the singles... then your black wholecuts look excellent with a suit, and even with a tuxedo with the proper shine, but they really should not ever be worn with jeans. the other 2 are fine to be worn with jeans (and encouraged!) BTW Meermin charges the same shipping for every 2 pairs of shoes, so might as well go for a 4th... in which case the black dub monks, or black semi brogues, would be my suggestion for the 4th.
I know I am going to get ridiculed but I am not a huge fan of the double monks. I have been visiting this forum for a while now and while they are starting to grow on me I am not ready to purchase a pair yet.
I detest dbl-monks. You're not alone.
You will come over to the dark side !!
NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN.
NST, Chukka/PTB, LWB.
Were these MTO? What are the details? They look great.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: they are one of the ugliest style of shoes ever created.
I'm giving some serious consideration to buying the black wholecuts in the Classic collection to wear with my tux as well as with a suit. However, I'm a little worried about buying the wrong size and having to deal with a shoe that doesn't fit and is difficult to exchange without a huge price for shipping back and forth. Not to mention the issues with UPS that people are mentioning.
Are wholecuts not meant to be worn with chinos or jeans? Are they strictly a suit/tux shoe?
Get a black captoe, a brown derby and a burgundy oxford. I would definitely not get a double monk as one of my first 3 shoes... Oh and wholecuts aren't great with jeans
Just so that I'm teaching you to fish, rather than giving you one:
There are a couple of things to consider.
1. If the formality scale is relevant to you, it holds that in general less stitching and extraneous details, + colour black, + closed lacing (i.e. oxford rather than derby) = more formal. A wholecut is therefore the most formal shoe by such a scale. On the other hand, a wholecut is not really a traditional shoe anyway, but at least in this case we could consider it to be at least as formal as a plain toe balmoral.
2. More important than the formality scale is its aesthetic cohesiveness with the rest of the outfit. A wholecut is perhaps the most minimal of all shoes. No extra detailing, no stitching to break up the pattern, no nothing. Think about other minimal designs - recently, skinny black suits, absolutely minimal texture (even to the extent of utilising polyester and technical fabrics), simple colour blocking, etc etc. Indigo denim, with its nice raised texture and rugged association, simply doesn't fit into this aesthetic. Now, that doesn't mean that all denim mightn't fit here, or that all wholecuts are necessarily minimal, but if you understand the aim of each design it will help you pair things a little easier.
So what is the consensus on the Cordovan from Meermin?
I think it would be good to get a response from people who haven't just ordered them but have actually walked around and put some wear in to the leather.
We have already seen some unfavourable results from Orgetorix.
I'm looking at these NST's
It would be good to know if the price is good value for Cordovan or a waste of money and you're better off going with Calf.
You can wear whatever shoes with whatever outfit you prefer, but most of the choices should be narrowed down to fit/style/color. And by fit, I do not mean how well fitted an article of clothing is; its largely unimportant.
Wholecut in terms of styling is more on the novelty end of the spectrum; too edge for business and not rugged enough for work/casualwear.
long wing bluchers, plain toe bluchers/chukkas, norweign split toes all work much better as the swiss army knife of shoe styling.
colorwise, black is formal, brown is less, light colors are casual.
so black chukka has a formal color, novelty design. doesn't bodes well for most outfits.
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